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Article #695Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008
From: Rod Speed
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:41
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:41
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Jon von Leipzig <Jonl@myday.com> wrote: > Ari Silverstein wrote: >> On Thu, 11 May 2006 08:52:54 -0700, Joshua Putnam wrote: >> >> >>> On one hand, nothing in the cited legislation says anything about >>> RFID, and RFID tracking seems like a ridiculous proposal that no >>> politician would expect to get away with. >>> >>> On the other hand, there's no legislation authorizing the NSA to >>> maintain a database of every single phone call made within the >>> United States, and it seems like a ridiculous scheme that no >>> politician would expect to get away with. >> >> >> Now for the reality. >> >> http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/1951/1/1/ > > That might impress laypersons, but not serious hackers. > > > The RFID Hacking Underground > http://tinyurl.com/s4dl8 > > They can steal your smartcard, lift your passport, jack your car, even > clone the chip in your arm. And you won't feel a thing. 5 tales from > the RFID-hacking underground. > > <snipped> > "We believe the new US passport is probably vulnerable to a > brute-force attack," he says. "The encryption keys in them will > depend on passport numbers and birth dates. Because these have a > certain degree of structure and guessability, we estimate that the > effective key length is at most 52 bits. A special key-cracking > machine could probably break a passport key of this length in 10 > minutes." Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to do it, without the owner of the passport being aware that you've attempted that. AND you'd get fuck all of any real value even if you did. And lets not try the line about identity theft, thats obviously possible with the non electronic passports too.
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