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Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008

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From: Jon von Leipzig
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:05
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Bob Ward wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2006 01:46:31 -0400, Jon von Leipzig <Jonl@myday.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 May 2006 08:52:54 -0700, Joshua Putnam wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On one hand, nothing in the cited legislation says anything about 
>>>>RFID, and RFID tracking seems like a ridiculous proposal that no 
>>>>politician would expect to get away with.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, there's no legislation authorizing the NSA to 
>>>>maintain a database of every single phone call made within the United 
>>>>States, and it seems like a ridiculous scheme that no politician 
>>>>would expect to get away with.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now for the reality.
>>>
>>>http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/1951/1/1/
>>
>>That might impress laypersons, but not serious hackers.
>>
>>
>>The RFID Hacking Underground
>>http://tinyurl.com/s4dl8
>>
>>They can steal your smartcard, lift your passport, jack your car, even 
>>clone the chip in your arm. And you won't feel a thing. 5 tales from the 
>>RFID-hacking underground.
>>
>><snipped>
>>"We believe the new US passport is probably vulnerable to a brute-force 
>>attack," he says. "The encryption keys in them will depend on passport 
>>numbers and birth dates. Because these have a certain degree of 
>>structure and guessability, we estimate that the effective key length is 
>>at most 52 bits. A special key-cracking machine could probably break a 
>>passport key of this length in 10 minutes."
> 
> 
> 
> "Estimate... at most... probably... 10 minutes..."  That's sure
> cutting-edge hard science you're quoting there.  Any equally reliabile
> information on where the Easter bunny lives the rest of the year?
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> 

Hey, it's Friday! (no hard science required on weekends) :-)
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From: Jon von Leipzig <Jonl@myday.com>
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Subject: Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008
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