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Article #725Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:30
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:30
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Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> wrote: > In article <ethc62h0qjf4aph9ch46bnu4f37kciiuso@4ax.com>, > Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 13 May 2006 20:51:05 -0000, gordonb.n43x0@burditt.org (Gordon >> Burditt) wrote: >> >>>> You only need to create the link between the ID number and the >>>> person once. Forever after that, all you need is the ID number. >>>> >>>> It's like how supermarket loyalty cards work. They record who >>>> you are in their database when you sign up and they give you >>>> the card with a unique ID. From then on, all they do is scan >>>> the card with that ID and they know who you are. >>> >>> With ubiquitous RFID, a supermarket could create "loyalty cards" >>> without even having to issue them or admit having them. When you >>> buy something, they record the ID numbers of RFID items you have >>> on you other than their merchandise. These might be in your >>> driver's license, credit cards, pants, shoes, wallet, etc. and the >>> store doesn't really have to care WHAT they are on. >>> >>> To avoid thinking you are a different person every time you change >>> pants, items seen together often are linked together as being the >>> same person. The first time they see your driver's license and >>> credit card. The next time they see the credit card and your new >>> wallet. The next time they see your new wallet and your running >>> shoes. Now all of these are grouped together in one record. Pretty >>> soon they've got a pretty good inventory list of the RFID items you >>> sometimes carry with you. Some adjustment might be used to account >>> for shared clothing or gifts (which means they can track who you >>> share stuff with). >>> >>> If they even once accept payment in the form of a check or credit >>> card, they've got your name, account number, and maybe an address >>> or phone number. Now consider what happens when half of the >>> stores in a given city share this info with each other. >> What? They find out that you've been buying aluminum foil from all >> of them? > They have enough info to steal your identity and > charge up a storm on your credit cards, even if you > never used your credit cards in any of those stores. Just another of your silly little paranoid conspiracy theorys. If you're that mindlessly paranoid, use cash. > And don't say identity theft is a > "mindless paranoid conspiracy". It's real. Not like that it aint, its just another of your mindless luddite fantasys.
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