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Article #733Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008
From: The Real Bev
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 00:27
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 00:27
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Rod Speed wrote: > Gary Heston <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote: >> In article <126cl99sc8rsl62@corp.supernews.com>, >> Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> wrote: >>> In article <ethc62h0qjf4aph9ch46bnu4f37kciiuso@4ax.com>, >>> Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 13 May 2006 20:51:05 -0000, gordonb.n43x0@burditt.org >>>> (Gordon Burditt) wrote: >> [ ... ] >>>>> If they even once accept payment in the form of a check or credit >>>>> card, they've got your name, account number, and maybe an address >>>>> or phone number. Now consider what happens when half of the >>>>> stores in a given city share this info with each other. >> >>>> What? They find out that you've been buying aluminum foil from all >>>> of them? >> >>> They have enough info to steal your identity and charge up a storm on >>> your credit cards, even if you never used your credit cards in any >>> of those stores. And don't say identity theft is a "mindless >>> paranoid conspiracy". It's real. > >> Bear in mind also that these databases can be targeted by subpoenas. > > Nice paranoia. Pity that thats just as true of the > current system without RFID and isnt in fact a problem. > >> Do you want a detailed accounting of your spending habits >> available to any lawyer or government agency at their whim? > > It isnt now, and RFID changes nothing on that. > >> How valuable would that be in a divorce case? >> IRS audit? Child custody fight? > > More utterly mindless paranoia. > > Have fun explaining why it doesnt happen without RFID. The easier and cheaper it is to collect the data, the more uses will be found for it, and governments have a bottomless pit full of money to spend on technology when it's for "the public good" or "security" or "the children". It's not paranoia, kid. How many red-light cameras in your town? How many radar guns? -- Cheers, Bev ============================================= You need only two tools: WD-40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use duct tape.
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