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The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Gary Heston <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote
>>> Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> wrote
>>>> Bob Ward  <bobward@email.com> wrote
>>>>> gordonb.n43x0@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote

>>>>>> If they even once accept payment in the form of a check or credit
>>>>>> card, they've got your name, account number, and maybe an address
>>>>>> or phone number.  Now consider what happens when half of the
>>>>>> stores in a given city share this info with each other.

>>>>> What?  They find out that you've been buying aluminum foil from
>>>>> all of them?

>>>> They have enough info to steal your identity and charge up a storm
>>>> on your credit cards, even if you never used your credit cards in
>>>> any of those stores.  And don't say identity theft is a "mindless
>>>> paranoid conspiracy".  It's real.

>>> Bear in mind also that these databases can be targeted by subpoenas.

>> Nice paranoia. Pity that thats just as true of the
>> current system without RFID and isnt in fact a problem.

>>> Do you want a detailed accounting of your spending habits
>>> available to any lawyer or government agency at their whim?

>> It isnt now, and RFID changes nothing on that.

>>> How valuable would that be in a divorce case?
>>> IRS audit? Child custody fight?

>> More utterly mindless paranoia.

>> Have fun explaining why it doesnt happen without RFID.

> The easier and cheaper it is to collect the data,

It wont get any cheaper than it is now without bothering
with RFID with the stuff he mindlessly hyperventilated about.

> the more uses will be found for it,

See above.

> and governments have a bottomless pit full of money to spend on technology when it's for 
> "the public good" or "security" or "the children".

RFID at checkouts has nothing to do with the govt.

No govt will be demanding proof of ID at checkouts either, you watch.

> It's not paranoia, kid.

Corse it is.

> How many red-light cameras in your town?  How many radar guns?

Irrelevant to that mindless hyperventilation about targetting by subpoenas.

Like I said, we have plenty of ways of keeping track of all sorts of things
without RFID. No point in mindlessly hyperventilating about RFID now
when there are countless mechanisms for keeping track of what calls
you make, what you do in your car, etc etc etc, without RFID.

If you dont like the risk with red-light cameras
and radar guns, dont flout the law, stupid.

I dont hold up banks, attempt to get ATMs out
of the wall using forklifts, etc etc etc for a reason.