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Article #737Re: U.S. National Identity Card (RFID) Coming in 2008
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:28
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:28
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"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message news:bVP9g.437$rp4.8@fe07.lga... > Rod Speed wrote: > >> Gary Heston <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote: >>> In article <126cl99sc8rsl62@corp.supernews.com>, >>> Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> wrote: >>>> In article <ethc62h0qjf4aph9ch46bnu4f37kciiuso@4ax.com>, >>>> Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 13 May 2006 20:51:05 -0000, gordonb.n43x0@burditt.org >>>>> (Gordon Burditt) wrote: >>> [ ... ] >>>>>> If they even once accept payment in the form of a check or credit >>>>>> card, they've got your name, account number, and maybe an address >>>>>> or phone number. Now consider what happens when half of the >>>>>> stores in a given city share this info with each other. >>> >>>>> What? They find out that you've been buying aluminum foil from all >>>>> of them? >>> >>>> They have enough info to steal your identity and charge up a storm on >>>> your credit cards, even if you never used your credit cards in any >>>> of those stores. And don't say identity theft is a "mindless >>>> paranoid conspiracy". It's real. >> >>> Bear in mind also that these databases can be targeted by subpoenas. >> >> Nice paranoia. Pity that thats just as true of the >> current system without RFID and isnt in fact a problem. >> >>> Do you want a detailed accounting of your spending habits >>> available to any lawyer or government agency at their whim? >> >> It isnt now, and RFID changes nothing on that. >> >>> How valuable would that be in a divorce case? >>> IRS audit? Child custody fight? >> >> More utterly mindless paranoia. >> >> Have fun explaining why it doesnt happen without RFID. > > The easier and cheaper it is to collect the data, the more uses will be > found for it, and governments have a bottomless pit full of money to spend > on technology when it's for "the public good" or "security" or "the > children". > > It's not paranoia, kid. How many red-light cameras in your town? How > many radar guns? > > -- > Cheers, Bev you forgot "for the animals". i'm really getting sick of the evening news ALWAYS figuring out how to put kid and/or animals into a story. do i care that one of the occupants of a house that caught on fire was a kid? NO. do i care that the family pet made it out alive? NO.
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