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Article #90Re: Can't pay? Just walk away.
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:27
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:27
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In article <0lt1r3t7b2f0a81cumrpaiqndkh1kugick@4ax.com>, PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:24:46 -0800 (PST), Foobar ><bamberbert@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Feb 7, 1:22 pm, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:29:18 -0600, Snowbound >>> >>> <loosebow...@ixnay.invalid> wrote: >>> >Just don't declare bankruptcy, like someone in real financial trouble >>> >might consider. If you declare bankruptcy, like some joker who lost >>> >everything to unforseen disaster or illness, you are putting yourself at >>> >the mercy of courts and banks (who make today's bankruptcy laws). If you >>> >just walk away from a massivemortgageYOU freely chose, you get off >>> >scott free, without any substantial penalty! After all, what >>> >asset-draining cancer or chronic workplace injury could POSSIBLY be >>> >worse than losing a home you couldn't afford in the first place? >>> >>> This sounds good. The most logical part is the lender who made that >>> unjustifiably risky loan to Mr. J Doe will lilkely disappear as a >>> corporate entity before they catch up with Mr. Doe who walked away >>> from his foreclosed house. Whichever new company that takes over the >>> property will likely find it impossible or just too costly to clear >>> the paperwork necessary to track down John Doe the walker and make him >>> pay. There will be a few millions of such foreclosures that >willtrashany industrywide attempt to clean them up. >> >>Which is a good thing? > > >In normal situations there is enough of a paper trail to track you >down anywhere in the country. So you have to declare bankruptcy (the >new rules I don't know about but its no longer easy to declare it) and >your credit rating goes to hell. > >But in this subprime crisis the banking system isn't sure who actually >holds the original mortgage, who holds the invertment to a bundle of >these original mortages, who is the third party (bank or financial >institution) that had lent to the secondary party who held the >bundled mortages to the original mortgage. And this can cascade into >the fourth or fifth tier. If you can't follow the connections so far >neither can the banks and the financial institutions. The original >one million dollar bundle of mortages may have generated another four >to five millions if not more in secondary market.. A small ray of hope. http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20071115/WIRE/711150413 At least there's one judge who stood up to financial institutions to make them follow the law. Until this article I hadn't been aware that it was customary for courts to let foreclosing entities foreclose without providing proof of ownership as required by law. m
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