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PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#524
Author: Mark
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:22
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Hi....

Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between my PC
and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and only
get a reliable connection at 38400....

Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...

Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB HDD.

Cheers

Mark
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#525
Author: colin
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:30
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Mark <mambrose@nospam.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:zxpb8.30995$Zu6.151517@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi....
>
> Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between my
PC
> and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and only
> get a reliable connection at 38400....
>
> Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...
>
> Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB
HDD.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>

Hi Mark

On the PC side; have you set the com 2 port speed to 38400 in control
panel>system>device manager>ports>com 2>properties>port settings?
It`s default value is usually 9600, which could be what is slowing your
transfer speed.
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#526
Author: James Hastie
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:33
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> On the PC side; have you set the com 2 port speed to 38400 in control
> panel>system>device manager>ports>com 2>properties>port settings

Yep that process if you are using Win 95/98/Me/2000 on your PC or if it is
XP the process is
cntrlpanel/performanceandmatience/system/hardware/devicemanger assuming u
are using catergory view if you are using classic veiw
cntrlpanel/system/hardware/devicemanger :-)

James
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#501
Author: Ross Vumbaca
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:18
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Hi,

colin wrote:
 
> On the PC side; have you set the com 2 port speed to 38400 in control
> panel>system>device manager>ports>com 2>properties>port settings?
> It`s default value is usually 9600, which could be what is slowing your
> transfer speed.

If the baud rates were different, it wouldn't transfer even one byte at
all. 38400 is simply slow.

Regards,

Ross..
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#508
Author: HedgeSlammer
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:31
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I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?

In article <zxpb8.30995$Zu6.151517@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, 
mambrose@nospam.bigpond.net.au says...
> Hi....
> 
> Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between my PC
> and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and only
> get a reliable connection at 38400....
> 
> Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...
> 
> Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB HDD.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#509
Author: Ross Vumbaca
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:29
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Hi,

HedgeSlammer wrote:
 
> I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?
 
No, it can use any size as long as the OS supports it.

Ross..
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#512
Author: Hedgeslammer
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:46
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What is the Gb ceiling for a 1200 with Kickstart 3.0 and Workbench 3.0?
I don't suppose there is a FAQ out there somewhere for this kind of 
info?
TIA

In article <3C6F0792.D8B9B13@au.com.optushome>, rossv1@au.com.optushome 
says...
> Hi,
> 
> HedgeSlammer wrote:
>  
> > I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?
>  
> No, it can use any size as long as the OS supports it.
> 
> Ross..
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#513
Author: Mick
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:52
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"Hedgeslammer" <no@mail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16d99a664387acf989a23@news...
> What is the Gb ceiling for a 1200 with Kickstart 3.0 and Workbench 3.0?
> I don't suppose there is a FAQ out there somewhere for this kind of
> info?
> TIA
>
> In article <3C6F0792.D8B9B13@au.com.optushome>, rossv1@au.com.optushome
> says...
> > Hi,
> >
> > HedgeSlammer wrote:
> >
> > > I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?
> >
> > No, it can use any size as long as the OS supports it.
> >
> > Ross..
> >

4Gb per drive before you have to start using third party interfaces.

HTH,

Mick.


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Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#514
Author: Marcel DeVoe
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:46
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In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Mick <mickfos@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Hedgeslammer" <no@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.16d99a664387acf989a23@news...
>> What is the Gb ceiling for a 1200 with Kickstart 3.0 and Workbench 3.0?
>> I don't suppose there is a FAQ out there somewhere for this kind of
>> info?
>> TIA
>>
>> In article <3C6F0792.D8B9B13@au.com.optushome>, rossv1@au.com.optushome
>> says...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > HedgeSlammer wrote:
>> >
>> > > I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?
>> >
>> > No, it can use any size as long as the OS supports it.
>> >
>> > Ross..
>> >

> 4Gb per drive before you have to start using third party interfaces.

Software interfaces, that is. As opposed to hardware ones. ;-)

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Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#515
Author: Hedgeslammer
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 03:11
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I cabled a 3.3 Gb ATA 33 Quantum 3.5 hard drive up to my A1200 yesterday 
and it was unable to "see" the drive. Is ATA a no no?
BTW I used an adapter intended to hook a 2.5" HD up to a standard 40 pin 
ribbon cable, should this not work? I did align pin 1 properly.


In article <Z%ic8.458$Mp1.40893@news.shore.net>, mdevoe@shore.net 
says...
> In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Mick <mickfos@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> > "Hedgeslammer" <no@mail.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.16d99a664387acf989a23@news...
> >> What is the Gb ceiling for a 1200 with Kickstart 3.0 and Workbench 3.0?
> >> I don't suppose there is a FAQ out there somewhere for this kind of
> >> info?
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> In article <3C6F0792.D8B9B13@au.com.optushome>, rossv1@au.com.optushome
> >> says...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > HedgeSlammer wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I thought the A1200 could only use a hard drive up to 2 Gb?
> >> >
> >> > No, it can use any size as long as the OS supports it.
> >> >
> >> > Ross..
> >> >
> 
> > 4Gb per drive before you have to start using third party interfaces.
> 
> Software interfaces, that is. As opposed to hardware ones. ;-)
> 
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#516
Author: Marcel DeVoe
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:44
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In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Hedgeslammer <No@mail.com> wrote:
> I cabled a 3.3 Gb ATA 33 Quantum 3.5 hard drive up to my A1200 yesterday 
> and it was unable to "see" the drive. Is ATA a no no?

Not as far as I know.

> BTW I used an adapter intended to hook a 2.5" HD up to a standard 40 pin 
> ribbon cable, should this not work? I did align pin 1 properly.

Did you run HDToolbox on it? 

I ask because I don't know your familiarity with the Amiga.

It's kind of like running FDISK on a DOS machine. You need to set it up
with a RDB and partition it before the Amiga can actually see it and then
format after rebooting.

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Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#523
Author: Hedgeslammer
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 04:06
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The problem is that HDToolbox does not detect the drive, although
the machine works fine with the stock 40 Mb 2.5" drive.
And yes, I have had Amigas with hard drives before.

In article <ClJc8.521$Mp1.47244@news.shore.net>, mdevoe@shore.net 
says...
> In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Hedgeslammer <No@mail.com> wrote:
> > I cabled a 3.3 Gb ATA 33 Quantum 3.5 hard drive up to my A1200 yesterday 
> > and it was unable to "see" the drive. Is ATA a no no?
> 
> Not as far as I know.
> 
> > BTW I used an adapter intended to hook a 2.5" HD up to a standard 40 pin 
> > ribbon cable, should this not work? I did align pin 1 properly.
> 
> Did you run HDToolbox on it? 
> 
> I ask because I don't know your familiarity with the Amiga.
> 
> It's kind of like running FDISK on a DOS machine. You need to set it up
> with a RDB and partition it before the Amiga can actually see it and then
> format after rebooting.
> 
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#496
Author: Marcel DeVoe
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:40
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In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Hedgeslammer <No@mail.com> wrote:
> The problem is that HDToolbox does not detect the drive, although
> the machine works fine with the stock 40 Mb 2.5" drive.
> And yes, I have had Amigas with hard drives before.

Although I never had an A1200, I've heard that it will have problems
seeing some certain laptop type drives, or being unable to set a second
one as slave as it wouldn't work with the other one. It's a hit or miss
affair I guess.

You might have better luck setting the drive up as the only device on the
bus and set as master, then boot from the Amiga's Install disk.

I've only run a couple of IDE drives in my A4000's native IDE port, but
they were standard 3-1/2 inch affairs and worked okay.

There is an A1200 FAQ on Warren Block's web site that might have some
tips.

http://wonkity.com/~wblock/

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Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#497
Author: Ant
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:17
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> Although I never had an A1200, I've heard that it will have problems
> seeing some certain laptop type drives, or being unable to set a second
> one as slave as it wouldn't work with the other one. It's a hit or miss
> affair I guess.

Most 2.5" drives (all 4 of mine, for example) do not have jumpers and cannot
be set to anything other than master (slave not present).  This is why you
cannot see the second drive.  The way around this is to either get a
buffered IDE interface with two IDE ports (support for 4 drives) and attach
the 3.5" drive to the secondary port, or scrap the 2.5" drive entirely.
Though I'm sure they are made, I've never seen a 2.5" drive that would share
one IDE port.
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#498
Author: Hedgeslammer
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:58
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I think I will just stick with a 2.5" drive for now.
Thanx for the FAQ link Marcel.

In article <fRkd8.649$Mp1.55148@news.shore.net>, mdevoe@shore.net 
says...
> In comp.sys.amiga.emulations Hedgeslammer <No@mail.com> wrote:
> > The problem is that HDToolbox does not detect the drive, although
> > the machine works fine with the stock 40 Mb 2.5" drive.
> > And yes, I have had Amigas with hard drives before.
> 
> Although I never had an A1200, I've heard that it will have problems
> seeing some certain laptop type drives, or being unable to set a second
> one as slave as it wouldn't work with the other one. It's a hit or miss
> affair I guess.
> 
> You might have better luck setting the drive up as the only device on the
> bus and set as master, then boot from the Amiga's Install disk.
> 
> I've only run a couple of IDE drives in my A4000's native IDE port, but
> they were standard 3-1/2 inch affairs and worked okay.
> 
> There is an A1200 FAQ on Warren Block's web site that might have some
> tips.
> 
> http://wonkity.com/~wblock/
> 
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#499
Author: Ville Jouppi
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:29
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:17:19 -0000, "Ant" <spam_mail250@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Most 2.5" drives (all 4 of mine, for example) do not have jumpers and cannot
>be set to anything other than master (slave not present).  This is why you
>cannot see the second drive.

Are you sure? Nearly all 2.5" drives have a four pin block that's separate
from the 44 pin ide header. That's where the selection jumpers plug in. The
only 2.5" drives I've seen that don't have those were very old and under 100MB
in size.
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Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#492
Author: Ant
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:24
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> Are you sure? Nearly all 2.5" drives have a four pin block that's separate
> from the 44 pin ide header. That's where the selection jumpers plug in.
The
> only 2.5" drives I've seen that don't have those were very old and under
100MB in size.

(Quickly digs out 2.5" drive to check.)  You're right.  But there's no
indication of what the jumper settings should be.  Maybe the manufacturer's
site has info.  I'm fairly certain, though (remembering from old AF issues)
that 2.5" drives generally do not like sharing a single IDE port.
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#493
Author: Angelo Vigliotti
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:49
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"Ant" <spam_mail250@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3c78251c_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> > Are you sure? Nearly all 2.5" drives have a four pin block that's
separate
> > from the 44 pin ide header. That's where the selection jumpers plug in.
> The
> > only 2.5" drives I've seen that don't have those were very old and under
> 100MB in size.
>
> (Quickly digs out 2.5" drive to check.)  You're right.  But there's no
> indication of what the jumper settings should be.  Maybe the
manufacturer's
> site has info.  I'm fairly certain, though (remembering from old AF
issues)
> that 2.5" drives generally do not like sharing a single IDE port.
>
>

For my Fujitsu 2.5" MHH2064AT 6Gb drive the jumper settings are
(looking at the drive with the 44 pin header to the left)

No jumpers on the 4 pin block = Master 1 drive only
Inboard 2 pins jumpered = Master with another drive
Outboard 2 pins jumpered = Slave drive

               Jim
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#494
Author: Hedgeslammer
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 04:55
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Just do a search with Google, etc... with the drive's model
number and you should be able to find the jumper settings for
almost any drive in existence.

In article <%TVd8.3019$2v6.268730@news1.west.cox.net>, 
jamesvigATT@cox.net says...
> 
> "Ant" <spam_mail250@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3c78251c_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> > > Are you sure? Nearly all 2.5" drives have a four pin block that's
> separate
> > > from the 44 pin ide header. That's where the selection jumpers plug in.
> > The
> > > only 2.5" drives I've seen that don't have those were very old and under
> > 100MB in size.
> >
> > (Quickly digs out 2.5" drive to check.)  You're right.  But there's no
> > indication of what the jumper settings should be.  Maybe the
> manufacturer's
> > site has info.  I'm fairly certain, though (remembering from old AF
> issues)
> > that 2.5" drives generally do not like sharing a single IDE port.
> >
> >
> 
> For my Fujitsu 2.5" MHH2064AT 6Gb drive the jumper settings are
> (looking at the drive with the 44 pin header to the left)
> 
> No jumpers on the 4 pin block = Master 1 drive only
> Inboard 2 pins jumpered = Master with another drive
> Outboard 2 pins jumpered = Slave drive
> 
>                Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#478
Author: torr
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:44
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g'day folks,

i been using ncomm on the amiga and hyper terminal on my pc connected via
null modem cable.
i usually connect at 115200 board, definately when transfering large
files.(in the last 40 meg i got 4 retries)
when tx'ing small files i drop to 57Kb and get no drop outs or retries

my amiga 1200 has a 250meg hd and 50 mghz 030 and 8 meg fast ram which seems
to make huge improvements on serials transfers. its a great setup for floppy
to adf/dms creations and back.

so 115kb is definatly possible

torr

"Mark" <mambrose@nospam.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:zxpb8.30995$Zu6.151517@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi....
>
> Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between my
PC
> and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and only
> get a reliable connection at 38400....
>
> Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...
>
> Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB
HDD.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#490
Author: Shaun
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 06:15
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Use a parallel laplink cable instead using PC2Ami or AMi2PC (Amiga2PC or
PC2Amiga?) cant remember tne name of the software.

But anything's going to be better than serial!!

"Mark" <mambrose@nospam.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:zxpb8.30995$Zu6.151517@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi....
>
> Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between my
PC
> and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and only
> get a reliable connection at 38400....
>
> Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...
>
> Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB
HDD.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
Re: PC -> Amiga Serial port speed
#491
Author: colin
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 10:21
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Shaun <shaun@nothanks.com> wrote in message
news:3c806e1c@news.comindico.com.au...
> Use a parallel laplink cable instead using PC2Ami or AMi2PC (Amiga2PC or
> PC2Amiga?) cant remember tne name of the software.
>
> But anything's going to be better than serial!!
>
> "Mark" <mambrose@nospam.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:zxpb8.30995$Zu6.151517@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Hi....
> >
> > Is there anyway to get higher than 38400 serial port baud rate between
my
> PC
> > and my Amiga 1200. I am using Amiga Explorer (from Amiga Forever) and
only
> > get a reliable connection at 38400....
> >
> > Trouble is, it's taking AGES to transfer files...
> >
> > Any ideas anyone...Amiga 1200 is bog stock...nothing in it except a 3GB
> HDD.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
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