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A P.E. really makes a difference in the IS and Software Engineering fields.  
With so many "fly-by-night" programmers and IS consultants (of which, many are 
business degreed or none), if a company sees a P.E. come in with his license 
and liability insurance, he's likely to get hired over someone else.

Many companies are finding out these "Novell Certified Administrator/Engineer 
(CNA/CNE) and "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MSCE)" consultants are a 
joke.  They don't really know much except the specifics of those products and 
most companies don't have just that one OS.  This is especially true of my 
company which has over a dozen platforms/OSes and a few real-time environments 
-- most of them which are required to control embedded systems and/or design 
and test our end product.

Therefore, even though these systems are required to make our product, the IS 
department (rotated regularly) simply disregards supporting them since they 
have labelled them "non-standard."  Hence why a software engineer like me is 
transformed into the IS department everyday.

My $0.02 ...

Bryan J. Smith, EI (hopefully soon a PE)
Coleman Research/Aerospace



In article <5upsr5$cog$1@news.goodnet.com>, nrhblack@datatamers.com says...
>
>
>msimon@tefbbs.com wrote:
>: In my opinion licensing is merely an effort to restrain trade. 
>
>You are certainly entitled to your opinion, however I put it to you that:
>1. Engineering licensing is not _merely_ an effort to restrain trade.
>It is, at least, an effort to protect the public from charlatan Engineers,
>and also an effort to establish a Code of Ethics. 
>I concede that the efficacy of the present licensing system in achieving
>these noble aims may be questionably, but the fact that there is an
>effort is not in doubt.
>2. Efforts to restrain trade are not entirely bad. To the extent that
>licensing protects Engineers from unfair competition from those who
>have no license to lose should they care to follow the needs of the
>business where these conflict with Ethics, then mandatory licensing is
>good.  Licensing would be better and more effective if it were more
>encompassing and indeed if the laws that provide for protection today
>were honored less in the breach and more in the observance.
>
>: Simon
>
>: BTW I qualified as a Naval Nuclear Reactor operator with the highest
>: orals in three years. (They put a special team on me with twice as
>: many board members as usual. And three hours of questions instead of
>: the usual one to one and a half hours) I have no degree.
>
>I too was an undegreed Engineer for about ten years and created some
>of my best designs in those days.  Eventually I finished my degree
>by correspondence and became licensed a few years later.  Certainly
>the degree is not essential to be a competent practioner, but you can't
>complain that folks tend to be wary and require that you prove yourself
>in ways not required of the degreed and/or licensed Engineer.
>
>Henry Black P.E.
>of my 

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