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Article #265Re: Soldering irons: made in America but designed in Russia?
From: Allus Smith
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:23
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:23
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On 21 Apr 01:45, Joerg wrote: > Allus Smith wrote: >>> On 20 Apr 21:08, Allus Smith wrote: >> >> On 21 Apr 01:08, William Sommerwerck wrote: >>>> All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how >>>> crummy too much American industrial design is. >>>> >>>> Some US industrial design looks great but some looks >>>> downright, well, Russian. >>>> >>>> Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too >>>> but there's a lot less of it than in the US. >>>> >>>> Take soldering irons for example. An ordinary soldering >>>> iron in the US with unregulated temperature still has great >>>> big mofo screws holding the tip. >>>> >>>> By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a >>>> sleek looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly >>>> expensive. >>>> >>>> Don't start me on the looks of cars! >>>> >>> I don't know which brands you're referring to, but I've >>> owned EDSYN (Engineering Dedicated To Suit Your Needs!) >>> irons for 20+ years, and they don't look anything like that. >>> >> >> EDSYN are lovely irons but none of them list for under $100 >> and I believe they all have temperature regulation. >> > > Ahm, what? See below. > > >> Apologies if I wasn't clear but EDSYN wasn't what I had in >> mind when I said "An ordinary soldering iron in the US with >> unregulated temperature". I mean the cheaper end of the >> market but not as cheap the rock-bottom $5 irons! >> >> http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=SolderingStations > > > Tell me, where's that ugly side-screw on this one? > > http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=piw&pn=CL1481 > > Regarding your comment above, last time I checked $54.86 was > still less than $100 ... > > Oh, and no temperature regulation :-) > Good point Joerg. I missed that one in the online catalogue. You may be misunderstanding me if you think I said ALL basic American soldering irons look Russian. I meant to say there was a lot more of this sort of poor design in the US than in western Europe. A single item doesn't really prove or disprove it. However. as you kindly drew my attention to EDSYN then I show illustrate the Antexes I mentioned. <http://www.antex.co.uk/prodtype.asp?CAT_ID=180 &strPageHistory=category> Consumer goods are cheaper in the US, so the usual $1 = �1 is probably a good indicator of the sort of price level these irons are at. It's the sub $20 market (including tax).
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