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Re: Soldering irons: made in America but designed in Russia?

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From: Allus Smith
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:23
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On 21 Apr  01:45, Joerg wrote:

> Allus Smith wrote:
>>> On 20 Apr  21:08, Allus Smith wrote: 
>> 
>> On 21 Apr  01:08, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>>>> All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how
>>>> crummy too much American industrial design is. 
>>>>
>>>> Some US industrial design looks great but some looks 
>>>> downright, well, Russian. 
>>>>
>>>> Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too
>>>> but there's a lot less of it than in the US. 
>>>>
>>>> Take soldering irons for example.  An ordinary soldering
>>>> iron in the US with unregulated temperature still has great
>>>> big mofo screws holding the tip. 
>>>>
>>>> By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a
>>>> sleek looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly 
>>>> expensive. 
>>>>
>>>> Don't start me on the looks of cars! 
>>>>
>>> I don't know which brands you're referring to, but I've
>>> owned EDSYN (Engineering Dedicated To Suit Your Needs!)
>>> irons for 20+ years, and they don't look anything like that.
>>>
>> 
>> EDSYN are lovely irons but none of them list for under $100
>> and I believe they all have temperature regulation.
>> 
> 
> Ahm, what? See below.
> 
> 
>> Apologies if I wasn't clear but EDSYN wasn't what I had in
>> mind when I said "An ordinary soldering iron in the US with 
>> unregulated temperature".  I mean the cheaper end of the
>> market but not as cheap the rock-bottom $5 irons!
>> 
>> http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=SolderingStations 
> 
> 
> Tell me, where's that ugly side-screw on this one?
> 
> http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=piw&pn=CL1481
> 
> Regarding your comment above, last time I checked $54.86 was
> still less than $100 ...
> 
> Oh, and no temperature regulation :-)
> 

Good point Joerg.  I missed that one in the online catalogue.

You may be misunderstanding me if you think I said ALL basic 
American soldering irons look Russian.  I meant to say there was a 
lot more of this sort of poor design in the US than in western 
Europe.  A single item doesn't really prove or disprove it.

However. as you kindly drew my attention to EDSYN then I show 
illustrate the Antexes I mentioned.

<http://www.antex.co.uk/prodtype.asp?CAT_ID=180
&strPageHistory=category>

Consumer goods are cheaper in the US, so the usual $1 = �1 is 
probably a good indicator of the sort of price level these irons 
are at. It's the sub $20 market (including tax).
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