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Allus Smith wrote:
> On 21 Apr  01:45, Joerg wrote:
> 
>> Allus Smith wrote:
>>>> On 20 Apr  21:08, Allus Smith wrote: 
>>> On 21 Apr  01:08, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>>>>> All this talk about soldering irons makes me think how
>>>>> crummy too much American industrial design is. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Some US industrial design looks great but some looks 
>>>>> downright, well, Russian. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you can see crap-looking design in western Europe too
>>>>> but there's a lot less of it than in the US. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Take soldering irons for example.  An ordinary soldering
>>>>> iron in the US with unregulated temperature still has great
>>>>> big mofo screws holding the tip. 
>>>>>
>>>>> By comparison, my 30 year old British-made basic Antex is a
>>>>> sleek looking baby and those Antexes are not particularly 
>>>>> expensive. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't start me on the looks of cars! 
>>>>>
>>>> I don't know which brands you're referring to, but I've
>>>> owned EDSYN (Engineering Dedicated To Suit Your Needs!)
>>>> irons for 20+ years, and they don't look anything like that.
>>>>
>>> EDSYN are lovely irons but none of them list for under $100
>>> and I believe they all have temperature regulation.
>>>
>> Ahm, what? See below.
>>
>>
>>> Apologies if I wasn't clear but EDSYN wasn't what I had in
>>> mind when I said "An ordinary soldering iron in the US with 
>>> unregulated temperature".  I mean the cheaper end of the
>>> market but not as cheap the rock-bottom $5 irons!
>>>
>>> http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=SolderingStations 
>>
>> Tell me, where's that ugly side-screw on this one?
>>
>> http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=piw&pn=CL1481
>>
>> Regarding your comment above, last time I checked $54.86 was
>> still less than $100 ...
>>
>> Oh, and no temperature regulation :-)
>>
> 
> Good point Joerg.  I missed that one in the online catalogue.
> 
> You may be misunderstanding me if you think I said ALL basic 
> American soldering irons look Russian.  I meant to say there was a 
> lot more of this sort of poor design in the US than in western 
> Europe.  A single item doesn't really prove or disprove it.
> 

Well, there are tons of them that look sleek and modern. Visit a good 
hardware store over here and see for yourself. Or any major Radio Shack.


> However. as you kindly drew my attention to EDSYN then I show 
> illustrate the Antexes I mentioned.
> 
> <http://www.antex.co.uk/prodtype.asp?CAT_ID=180
> &strPageHistory=category>
> 
> Consumer goods are cheaper in the US, so the usual $1 = �1 is 
> probably a good indicator of the sort of price level these irons 
> are at. It's the sub $20 market (including tax).


Antex may be good but they seem to have the same problem as Ersa (I 
loved their irons while in Europe): International marketing may be lacking.

Well, check this one out, under $10, no side screw, the tip is threaded 
and that screws in as a whole from the front (IIRC):
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062737

If I'd need a simple iron I'd got for a good name brand, like this one 
for $40:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3348440

-- 
Regards, Joerg

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