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Article #197Re: Disposal of Radioactive Waste
From: Bullwinkle J. Moose
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:00
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:00
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No one ever claimed that any alternate methods could be put into imediate use, they all requier s certain degree of research. Longer term monitored storage can not be put into imediate use iether, no suitable, acceptable sites have yet been located, and all known potential suitable canadates fail under the criterion of acceptability because people object to all of them. What these alternative methods, perticuarly the use of subductions zone, offer, is a method that could potentialy be both suitable, and acceptable, to virtualy every one. In addition, if research were carried our agressivly, it could possible be put into use long befor any suitable, acceptable, site for long term monitored storage could be found and prepared. The great mistake of nuclear power was the lack of forthought. The by-products generated by it are easily contained at the site (unlike the use of fossil fuels), So they are not released into the environment, but, you have to find some place where you can put them for a very long time. Not thought about that. Even now, few people are. Eventualy, a switch to a fuel like ethanol would be very wise. Argicultural bi-products (the part of the plants no one eats) provide an out standing source material for the production of ethanol. The by-product from producing ethanol makes a good live-stock feed, or a good base for fertilizers that do not lead to the break disapearance of top soil. With high efficency intenal combustion engins combined with ethanols high oxygen content, and a good catalitic converter, the emsions would be minimal, And the production of the raw material for the production of ethanol removes such emmisions from the air so there is an overall zero net increase in atmospheric levels of those various emmision. The only modifaction needed to make a petrol engin use ethanlon is a slight alteration of the fuel injection system, so existing technology (like a '57 Bell Air :) could be very easily converted to use ethanol. the same trasportation and distrobution systems coud be used, over all, it is an easy enough switch. When used with a distributed Solar system, and perhapse also a suplimentative wind based system, as well as fuel cells, distributed ofcoarse, a potential electirical system that does not have any negative impact on the environment could be implimented with allmost no noticable change to the end users. They would still drive there cars, go the same fueling stations, etc... Perhapse the only noticable differences would be lower cost at the fuel pumps, fewer farmers in economic distress (by opening up a new market for a product they all ready produce), smal solar cells ontop of telaphone poles, and fuel cells in the basments of various buildings and homes, and fewer black outs becuase the electirical grid would be distributed so knocking out a few nodes wouldn't have much effect on the system overall. The Solar cells wouldn't be very noticed, who looks in the basement? over all, the change would be unnoticed, but very welcome. Unfortunatly we would still need to find a place to put all the nuclear waste we have stockpiled over the years... subduction zones? well, if research went on while the electrical and transport systems were being shirted to thier new, distributed, environmentaly friendly implementations, a way to make it work could probably be worked out, and started. So, how to kick it all off? Quarks like a duck wrote: > As someone posted months earlier....what color is the sky on your > planet. > > There are no solutions. Monitored storage is the only choice for now > but subject to terrorism. I don't like monitored storage but the only > sensible method for now. > > nuclear power is the most expensive boondoggle ever. >
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