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Re: Disposal of Radioactive Waste

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From: Don Libby
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:00
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Tim O'Flaherty wrote:
> 
> Don Libby wrote in message <3944F2EA.787CC142@tds.net>...
> >"D.A.Kopf" wrote:
> 
> >Since a closed nuclear fuel cycle is adequate to handle this load
> >indefinitely,
> 
> How many Yucca Mts?    How many Sellafields?  How many billions of taxpayer
> dollars.  

Surely not enough to fill my hat.

> If this was all such a good idea the bankers would be lining up to
> invest.  They are not.  Moody's investor service lowered the credit rating
> for the majority of nuclear invested utilities.  Why?  Stranded costs. 
Investing in long-term projects carries risks.  One of those risks is a
change in the political or institutional environment.  Investors tend to
shy away from uncertainty.

> The
> same reason why utilities with aging nukes are scrambling to unload them at
> bargain basement prices.  Nobody wants to be caught holding the hot potato.

Nobody except Entergy and Unicom/Peco.

> The continued use of nukes for power gaurantees an ever growing mass of
> high, intermediate and low level waste that will long outlive any gain from
> the power generated.  That spells UN-sustainability.  

That's a definition of sustainability I haven't seen before.

> The waste problem is
> not solved. Catchy phrases like "closed nuclear fuel cycle"  sound great but
> that's small comfort if you live downstream of the reprocessing plant.

Nothing I have said will make you change your mind, and I have nothing
more to add.  I'll just reiterate my belief that the hazard is a
function of both the level of exposure to biological harm and the length
of exposure time.  I'm open to risk assessment and cost/benefit analyses
of all the available options.  Some people aren't -- so be it.  That's
what democracy is for.

-dl
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