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Article #95Re: Disposal of Radioactive Waste
From: Ben J
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:00
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:00
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hahah!!
And perhaps Adelaide, South Australia...
Near Football Park
codeman wrote:
>
> I might add that the most undesirable location (for me personally) and most
> suitable for nuclear waste, would be downtown New York City. I am sure there
> are a few million people who would disagree with me on this so please don't
> flame me, I admit defeat.
>
> "Ben J" <keldarNOSPAM@engineer.com> wrote in message
> news:391B9564.3DB0EF89@engineer.com...
> > For those of us that either have a clue, or live in Australia (or both)
> > we know that there really isn't that many uninhabited places, there is
> > always someone living somewhere. (for some reason that is
> > inconsequential)
> >
> > codeman wrote:
> > >
> > > Well Steve, an isolated area (supposedly undesirable for human habitat)
> was
> > > the topic and a particular part of Australia was the example. I
> suggested
> > > the moon as being totally ridiculous. I serious doubt that given all
> the
> > > money in the world that you could sustain life for a long period of time
> on
> > > the moon at this time in human existence. Either way, pack your bags
> and
> > > move to either the moon or to that desolate part of Australia that
> gentleman
> > > suggested. Never to return I might add. Nothing was said about
> financing
> > > your move or how you would live. That's up to you.
> > >
> > > "Steve Spence" <steve.spence@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uHbS4.60889$R4.306571@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > > hmm... the moon, well I could make it livable, with enough cash, but
> the
> > > > topic is Australia, and yes, I would do it just to prove it's
> possible.
> > > > Isolation and desolation are relative terms.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > > Steve Spence
> > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com
> > > > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm
> > > > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10
> > > > sspence@webconx.com
> > > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax
> > > > If we don't believe in freedom of speech
> > > > for people who we disagree with, we don't believe in it at all.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > "codeman" <codeman@gj.net> wrote in message
> news:3918d1c8@news.gj.net...
> > > > > Hmmm, give you a few hundred acres, anywhere, and you will move
> there?
> > > No
> > > > > matter how isolated and desolate it may be? Is that right? No
> > > > > objections, no buts? OK, I will give you a two hundred acres on
> the
> > > > > "sunny" side of the Moon. Go for it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Steve Spence" <steve.spence@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:e5SR4.58026$R4.291836@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > > > > give me a few hundred acres and I will. there has to be water a
> few
> > > > > hundred
> > > > > > feet down, and lots of sun for my pv panels. maybe some wind?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Steve Spence
> > > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com
> > > > > > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm
> > > > > > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10
> > > > > > sspence@webconx.com
> > > > > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax
> > > > > > If we don't believe in freedom of speech
> > > > > > for people who we disagree with, we don't believe in it at all.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "codeman" <codeman@gj.net> wrote in message
> > > news:39176174@news.gj.net...
> > > > > > > Reverse the question, who would live there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Steve Spence" <steve.spence@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:LWwR4.54953$R4.276555@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > > > > > > uninhabitable to whom?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Steve Spence
> > > > > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com
> > > > > > > > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm
> > > > > > > > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10
> > > > > > > > sspence@webconx.com
> > > > > > > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax
> > > > > > > > If we don't believe in freedom of speech
> > > > > > > > for people who we disagree with, we don't believe in it at
> all.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "TJ" <tjlim@telpacific.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:39162523@news.rivernet.com.au...
> > > > > > > > > There is so much land that is totally uninhabitable in
> > > Australia.
> > > > > Why
> > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > we allocate these sections to house these nuclear waste for
> > > > sizeble
> > > > > > > cost.
> > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > sell these spaces and ensure that stringent standards are
> > > imposed
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > dumping such waste here. There are lots of revenue from
> overseas
> > > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > earned here.
> > > > > > > > > <none (Quarks like a duck)> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:8f2n6g$61p$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > > > > > > > > > That is old thinking here in the US. Volunteer communities
> get
> > > > > > > > > > educated too quickly on the industry's inabilty to solve
> the
> > > > waste
> > > > > > > > > > problem. I watched many low-level waste communities
> volunteer
> > > > and
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > reject the idea soon after.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Ian Mair" <rimair@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >The following paper has been added to the web site of the
> > > > > > Australian
> > > > > > > > > Academy
> > > > > > > > > > >of Technological Sciences and Engineering. It may be
> viewed
> > > by
> > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >links from http://www.atse.org.au/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >"Some Aspects of the Relationship Between Society and the
> > > > > Disposal
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >Radioactive Waste", Mr Ian Duncan FTSE
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Society accepts that its demands for materials, energy
> and
> > > > > > transport
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > >create wastes, and yet no community will willingly absorb
> its
> > > > > share
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >waste, let alone accept a regional or national share.
> > > Community
> > > > > > > > rejection
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >such a burden is exemplified by the NIMBY ('not in my
> > > > back-yard')
> > > > > > > > > > >phenomenon. Recent examination of NIMBY suggests that it
> > > could
> > > > be
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > child
> > > > > > > > > > >of 'top down' siting decisions usually based upon a
> 'decide,
> > > > > > announce
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >defend (DAD)' policy. There are indications now that a
> > > counter
> > > > > > > culture
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >'volunteer communities' could mitigate or even overcome
> this
> > > > > > > rejection
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ecc0,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ecc0,public X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public X-Google-Thread: 10c480,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c480,public X-Google-Thread: 102359,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gid102359,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public X-Google-Thread: fb19c,76584cf5b626f783 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb19c,public From: Ben J <keldarNOSPAM@engineer.com> Subject: Re: Disposal of Radioactive Waste Date: 2000/05/13 Message-ID: <391D8BA3.6B0BE224@engineer.com> X-Deja-AN: 622983180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8f1vof$fas$1@possum.melbpc.org.au> <8f2n6g$61p$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> <39162523@news.rivernet.com.au> <LWwR4.54953$R4.276555@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com> <39176174@news.gj.net> <e5SR4.58026$R4.291836@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com> <3918d1c8@news.gj.net> <uHbS4.60889$R4.306571@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com> <391a9fda@news.gj.net> <391B9564.3DB0EF89@engineer.com> <391cc41d@news.gj.net> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 052.0104.gee.iprimus.net.au X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Keldar.net MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 03:05:39 EST Newsgroups: alt.engineering.nuclear,aus.environment.misc,aus.politics,sci.energy,sci.engr.mining,sci.environment.waste