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Article #37Re: Tom Shelly
From: Tom Shelly, White God
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:59
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:59
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:37:25 -0500, James Riske <apathy1@earthstink.net> wrote: >>He will...Directv DSL already has a letter from my attorney >>requesting his identity. > >You need a court order, and even with a court order it could take >years to get any info out of them because they could make endless >appeals.. > >Didn't you see what happened with aol? >Even after aol lost their court case they still refused to hand over >any personal info about one of their members: > >AOL forced to reveal member's identity: > >State supreme court throws out first amendment defence >By Paul Hales: Wednesday 04 December 2002, 16:55 > >AOL IS TO BE FORCED to reveal the name of one of its subscribers >following a ruling by the Virginia State Supreme court, reports state. > >AOL was asked to court to reconsider its findings, claiming the right >to free speech was the real issue at stake, the Reporters Committee >for the Freedom of Speech says. > >Hong Kong-based Nam Tai Electronics has sought to discover the >identity of an individual who posted a message on a Yahoo! board which >the company claims is libelous. The company is seeking compensation >and punitive damages against the individual who it says was part of a >plot to persuade investors away from the company. > >Nam Tai initially sought damages from Yahoo! in relation to the >posting by scovey2 and 51 other individuals. Scovey2 called the >company�s products "crap" in the posting. In the course of its >investigations Nam Tai discovered that scovey2 is an AOL member and >therefore asked the Virginia court � where AOL is based � to force it >to disclose the posters� identity. > >The Virginia Supreme Court ruled at the beginning of November that AOL >must disclose the identity of the poster, upholding an earlier circuit >court decision. > >AOL spokesperson Nicholas Graham said AOL believes "very strongly >[that its] members have protected free speech rights on an online >media." > >Yet the lower court concluded in June 2001 that "the First Amendment >privacy concerns of the anonymous defendant are outweighed by the >State of California's interest in the ability of its litigants to >conduct out-of-state discovery." In August, 2001 a Virginia court >Chief Judge said that the First Amendment concerns did not apply to >Nam Tai's claims of unfair business practices. > >AOL may yet take to case to the US Supreme court. "The information was >not being supplied to them because we felt that the subscriber in >question had a right to free speech on the service," Graham said. "We >were going to court in order to ensure that our members had a right to >free speech and right to privacy," he said. � >============================================ >Nobody ever defended anything successfully, >there is only attack and attack and attack some more. >--Gen George S. Patton What's even funnier is that they don't even have my real name and/or location. hahaha!~ Tom Shelly, Undefeated White God
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