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Started by Mike Stangel
Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:10
NI3
Author: Mike Stangel
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:10
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A while ago (perhaps a year?) someone posted a recipe for making Nitrogen Tri-Iodide. (At lease, I'm pretty sure that's what it was -- the brown crystals; many of you know what I'm talking about) Does anyone still have that? Wanna repost it? Mike
Re: NI3
Author: Mark D. Smucker
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:31
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In article <Bz7MGy.1wr@cs.uiuc.edu> stangel@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Stangel) writes:
>A while ago (perhaps a year?) someone posted a recipe for making
>Nitrogen Tri-Iodide. (At lease, I'm pretty sure that's what it
>was -- the brown crystals; many of you know what I'm talking about)
>Does anyone still have that? Wanna repost it?
>
>Mike
If I rember correctly, this was dangerous. But here are some posts
from that past discussion.
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From: rlbrinkl@eos.ncsu.edu (RAY LATHAM BRINKLEY)
Subject: Re: those wacky chemicals
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It sounds like you're talking about Nitrogen Triodide. Although I don't know
what color it is, your description seems to indicate that. As a solution in
water it is perfectly stable, but if it is allowed to dry it forms crystals
which will explosively decompose at the slightest touch.
Ray.
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In article <1992Apr2.014913.21018@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>,
bart@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bart Gold) writes:
>
> One quick question for all you intrepid chemical pranksters-
>
> Can anyone tell me the name of the substance that is first made as a
> brown liquid, then, when poured on the floor, turns into an (mildly)
> explosive brown solid?
>
I used to be in chemical engineering...the substance of which you speak would
be pottasium iodide. Quite harmless, and works very well if spread around
in small quantities. Someone stepping on it will hear a <crack> and there is
basically no residue.
Ashley Buratynski email: osicoop@bnr.ca
University of Waterloo "So this is the sword of immortality, huh?
Electrical Engineering What's it doing in a crypt?"
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From: David Christopher Wiggins <dw3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: those wacky chemicals
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Bart@Casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:
> One quick question for all you intrepid chemical pranksters-
>
> Can anyone tell me the name of the substance that is first made as a
>brown liquid, then, when poured on the floor, turns into an (mildly)
>explosive brown solid?
>
> I've seen this prank in this group before......
****************THE FOLLOWING IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES
ONLY****************
If you blow yourself up, I do NOT take responsibility, so if you try it,
BE CAREFUL. Also, these activities may or may not be appreciated by your
local law enforcement agency, so if you end up in jail, that's not my
problem either.
*******************************************************************************
*
OK. I don't know about the brown stuff, but I do know of a fairly easy
to produce contact explosive (I'm gonna get it right this time, 'cause
I've made it.) Here's what you do:
1. Beg, borrow, or steal as much AgNO3 (silver nitrate)
crystals as
you can.
2. Put 'em in solution with warm (100 F) water.
3. Bubble C2H2 (acetylene) through the solution.
4. Collect the precipitate.
The precipitate is the explosive. I forget what the stuff is called, or
the chemical formula. Luckily, I do remember how to handle the stuff
safely (as safe as explosives of this nature get.) It's easy, KEEP IT
WET. When it dries out, it becomes unstable, and therefore explosive.
Some neat tricks:
1. Pack the wet precipitate into keyholes. When it
dries......don't
be around
2. Sprinkle damp powdered precipitate on a dance floor when it
dries, it will crackle when walked on. But be sure to make sure
there are no chunks, as they will severely screw somebody up.
3. SMALL (size of a BB, experiment here, as your purity may vary)
chunks inside drawers, etc.
Now, most of you probably don't have welding rigs and you may be
wondering how to get small quantites of acetylene. Chemists may be
wondering why I specified that the AgNO3 solution be made up warm. Well,
if you can't find acetelene gas, go to an outdoor store. Ask for miner's
lamp carbide (CaC2, calcium carbide.) Once you have your carbide and
your AgNO3 sol'n, you can drop little pieces of carbide into the sol'n.
the carbide will react with the water in the sol'n, producing acetylene
and a slightly soluble calcium salt. If you keep the sol'n warm, less of
the calcium salt will precipitate, and you will get a more pure
explosive. Some warnings:
1. Acetylene is ungodly explosive itself. NO OPEN FLAMES. I
would
suggest a steam plate for this procedure. I would be wary of
electric hot plates, as they sometimes spark inside.
2. Acetylene is heavier than air, so take necessary precautions.
3. If you plan to store your explosives for any amount of
time
before use, store then in a cool, dark place in a brown glass
bottle, under lots of water. Make sure it doesn't dry out.
That's it. Have fun, BE CAREFUL, and don't kill yourself.
-dave, the guy who only represents himself, and not his university
Re: NI3
Author: Tony Zugates
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:00
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Yes! Be Careful! When I was in High School, some jerk brewed up about a half a litre of the stuff and left it in a cabinet. Someone, a janitor or somebody found it and the whole school was evacuated. It was sitting there waiting to blow half the classroom... If used sanely, you can have lots of fun! We would spread it out in front of the principal's office and watch the amazing scene unfold! I have stepped on this stuff barefoot and the pieces were small and didn't really hurt, but I can see how you wouldn't want to over-do it. "Turn unit on, insert coin, have fun!"-the Flanagan brothers.
Re: NI3
Author: DEY101
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:34
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:34
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In article <Bz7MGy.1wr@cs.uiuc.edu> stangel@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Stangel) writes:
>>A while ago (perhaps a year?) someone posted a recipe for making
>>Nitrogen Tri-Iodide. (At lease, I'm pretty sure that's what it
>>was -- the brown crystals; many of you know what I'm talking about)
>>Does anyone still have that? Wanna repost it?
>>
>>Mike
>****************THE FOLLOWING IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES
>ONLY****************
>If you blow yourself up, I do NOT take responsibility, so if you try it,
>BE CAREFUL. Also, these activities may or may not be appreciated by your
>local law enforcement agency, so if you end up in jail, that's not my
>problem either.
>***************************************************************************
>OK. I don't know about the brown stuff, but I do know of a fairly easy
>to produce contact explosive (I'm gonna get it right this time, 'cause
>i've made it.) Here's what you do:
> 1. Beg, borrow, or steal as much AgNO3 (silver nitrate)
>crystals as
> you can.
> 2. Put 'em in solution with warm (100 F) water.
> 3. Bubble C2H2 (acetylene) through the solution.
> 4. Collect the precipitate.
>The precipitate is the explosive. I forget what the stuff is called, or
>the chemical formula. Luckily, I do remember how to handle the stuff
>safely (as safe as explosives of this nature get.) It's easy, KEEP IT
>WET. When it dries out, it becomes unstable, and therefore explosive.
>Some neat tricks:
> 1. Pack the wet precipitate into keyholes. When it
>dies......don't
> be around
> 2. Sprinkle damp powdered precipitate on a dance floor when it
> dries, it will crackle when walked on. But be sure to make sure
> there are no chunks, as they will severely screw somebody up.
> 3. SMALL (size of a BB, experiment here, as your purity may vary)
> chunks inside drawers, etc.
{{{ stuff deleted }}}
The stuff described above is not NI3, but silver fulminate. This is
what is coated on the little rocks in those 'snappers' (little paper
things that go bang when they hit something).
The NI3 isusually the nastier of the two as far as the effects go but
both get the job done. However NI3 does tend to leave a nasty stain
on anything organic and just about any thing else too.
The 'tricks' above work for these too. One really good use is if you
want to booby trap something that someone may break into. When the NI3
goes off, it will scare the shit out of them, then leave nasty stains
they can't get off for you to catch them.
Don't remember the exact formula for NI3 but will post tomorrow.
- who needs to memorize stuff when you can look it up to be sure.
(too bad the proffs won't get that one through their heads. :-( ) :-)
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Re: NI3
Author: Scott Dorsey
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:49
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:49
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In article <92350.213416DEY101@psuvm.psu.edu> <DEY101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: > >>OK. I don't know about the brown stuff, but I do know of a fairly easy >>to produce contact explosive (I'm gonna get it right this time, 'cause >>i've made it.) Here's what you do: > >> 1. Beg, borrow, or steal as much AgNO3 (silver nitrate) >>crystals as >> you can. > >> 2. Put 'em in solution with warm (100 F) water. > >> 3. Bubble C2H2 (acetylene) through the solution. > >> 4. Collect the precipitate. This will produce silver fulminate. This is extremely nasty stuff, much nastier than ammonium triiodide. It's also damnably expensive (due to the cost of the silver nitrate). You would be much better off with mercury fulminate, which is a lot cheaper a lot more stable too. --scott
Re: NI3
Author: Carl T. Donath
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:49
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:49
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NI3, eh? Amusing stuff. Been a while since I made it. The following is from memory. If you make it, you take full responsibility. All disclamers apply. Ingredients: - Powdered Iodine Crystals - Highly concentrated ammonia Mix, stir thoroughly, let sit overnight or so. To detonate, let it dry evenly. If dried on paper towels, the movement of the paper as it dries is enough to detonate. Warning: along with a very fast explosion, this stuff sprays iodine around. For a more thorough review of this, see rec.pyro (or something like that) and get the FAQ. -- ______________/ ctdonath@rodan.acs.syr.edu \______________________________ Most people agree that the government is largely sluggish and ineffective. Then why do most people demand that it do everything for them? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: NI3
Author: Brandon Walts
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:19
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:19
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[Lots and lots of recepies for NI3, Ag fulminate, etc. and suggestions
for their use deleted]
>
> 1. Pack the wet precipitate into keyholes. When it
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do this!!!!
A freind of mine had this done
to him once. He inserted his key
into the keyhole and it was
shot out with enough force to
imbed it into the wall opposite
the door. By imbed I meen he
needed pliers to get it out.
Had he been standing in front
of his doorknob instead
of beside it, he would have been
severely injured.
This can be fun stuff, just
use common sense- don't
place it where it has any possibility
of launching *anything*.
>dries......don't
> be around
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
good advice
>
> 2. Sprinkle damp powdered precipitate on a dance floor when it
> dries, it will crackle when walked on. But be sure to make sure
> there are no chunks, as they will severely screw somebody up.
>
> 3. SMALL (size of a BB, experiment here, as your purity may vary)
> chunks inside drawers, etc.
>
>Now, most of you probably don't have welding rigs and you may be
>wondering how to get small quantites of acetylene. Chemists may be
>wondering why I specified that the AgNO3 solution be made up warm. Well,
>if you can't find acetelene gas, go to an outdoor store. Ask for miner's
>lamp carbide (CaC2, calcium carbide.) Once you have your carbide and
>your AgNO3 sol'n, you can drop little pieces of carbide into the sol'n.
>the carbide will react with the water in the sol'n, producing acetylene
>and a slightly soluble calcium salt. If you keep the sol'n warm, less of
>the calcium salt will precipitate, and you will get a more pure
>explosive. Some warnings:
>
> 1. Acetylene is ungodly explosive itself. NO OPEN FLAMES. I
>would
> suggest a steam plate for this procedure. I would be wary of
> electric hot plates, as they sometimes spark inside.
>
> 2. Acetylene is heavier than air, so take necessary precautions.
>
> 3. If you plan to store your explosives for any amount of
>time
> before use, store then in a cool, dark place in a brown glass
> bottle, under lots of water. Make sure it doesn't dry out.
>
>That's it. Have fun, BE CAREFUL, and don't kill yourself.
>
>-dave, the guy who only represents himself, and not his university
>
>
bwalts@lamar.colostate.edu
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