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It is appaling to see how much junk there is in the following 
'recommendations'.  Lets face it.  Medecines that have been proven 
'safe' and effective by state-of-the-art clinical trials do NOT work all 
the time for every patients.  And now you want us to believe that 
alternative medecine which are the figment of someone's imagination will 
work better?
	My father was ...   Well that was your father and your father 
would probably have got out it in spite of everything.  Just like some 
'straight' physicians believe that every time they 'cure' a patient that 
he/she is responsible for that cure.  50% of the times the patient would 
have got better anyway in spite of the doctor and the medecine 
prescribed.
	My parting shot, while you're lighting up your flame throwers is 
that you, particularly the credulous one who believe too easily in the 
latest fad, to read an excellent book "How we know what ins't so:  The 
fallability of human reason in everybody life" by Thomas Gilvich 
pulblished by THE FREE PRESS, a div of Macmillan Inc.  It will save you 
a good deal of money in the long run.
	OK I got it out my chest.  Keep well,... if you can in spite of 
the quacks and the doctors.
Guy
PS  My own opinion.





CHRIS OVERMANN wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much for your reply, Kay. It was just what I was hoping to
> be able to find! Your time is much appreciated.
> 
> Christy
> 
> slade or kay henson <noway.nohow@nowhere.com> wrote in article
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> 
> CHRIS OVERMANN wrote in message
> <01bd2107$3b6c8fa0$LocalHost@joverman.lisco.com>...
> >My father just had  a heart attack followed by angieoplasty (sp?)
> and will
> >need more angie. in a few weeks. He is taking a very active role in
> his
> >health and asked me to do some research for him on some info he'd
> been
> >given by various sources.
> 
> Hi Christy,
> 
> Before vitamins and herbs, he should be looking at diet changes.
> Foods play a major part in the prevention of heart disease.
> A healthy heart diet has plenty of magnesium and potassium rich
> foods: fresh greens, sea vegetables, flavonoid-rich foods from pitted
> fruits, tea and wine, sea foods, fish, tofu, brown rice and whole
> grains, garlic and onions.
> Reduce fat to no more than 10% of total daily calorie intake.
> Especially limit fats from animal sources and hydrogenated oils.
> 70% of daily calories from complex carbohydrates like vegetables and
> grains.
> 20% of daily calories from low fat protein sources.
> Eat less than 100mg per day of diet cholesterol. Keep cholesterol
> below 160.
> Add 8 glasses of bottled water daily to the diet. I suggest drinking
> distilled water only, as it the purest form. Chlorinated/flouridated
> water destroys vitamin E in the body.
> Pay conscious attention to eliminating red meats, caffeine and
> caffeine containing foods, refined sugars, fatty, salty, and fried
> foods, prepared meats and soft drinks.
> 
> My father had a heart attack in February of 1996, then had a
> quadruple bypass following it. He follows the Ornish diet, which is
> strictly vegetarian. His levels are all good now and he has lost
> weight.
> 
> >
> >First, of all is vitamins. We understand that some vitamins can help
> heal
> >his arteries or help prevent/postpone further damage. He's been
> recommended
> >the following vit and doses. What do you think of it? Are the doses
> right?
> >Are there other vitamins that will help?
> >
> >1,000mg Vit C 3x's a day
> >800 units of Vit E
> >100mg Niacin Mid
> >Garlic as directed on package
> 
> Linda Rector-Page advises:
> Cardio-tonic antioxidants:
> CoQ10--60mg. 3 times daily
> Germanium--150mg
> Carnitine--500mg daily
> Grapeseed PCOs--100mg 3 times daily
> Vitamin C with Bioflavonoids--up to 5,000mg daily for interstitial
> tissue elasticity, arterial integrity and prevent little strokes.
> Take with Vitamin E with Selenium 200mcg for synergistic activity.
> Vitamin B-1--50mg especially if taking diuretics
> Vitamin B-6--50-100mg to unclog arteries.
> 
> Heart disease preventatives:
> Chromium picolinate and Hawthorne blend to control arterial plaque
> and counteract insulin resistance.
> Omega-3 fish and flax oils 3 times daily
> Bromelain 1550mg regularly to prevent a heart attack by increasing
> fibrinolysis and inhibiting platelet aggregation.
> Folic acid to keep homocysteine levels down, with B-6 and B-12 for
> synergistic results.
> Magnesium--800mg.
> 
> >Also, we've seen the name Chelated come up a few times and would
> like know
> >what it is, and what it does. Would it be something he should look
> into?
> 
> I would suggest it.
> Chelation is pronounced Key'lation.
> Chelation is the process by which mineral substances are changed into
> their digestible form. Common mineral supplements such as bone meal
> and dolomite are often not chelated and must first be acted upon in
> the digestive process to form chelates before they are of use to the
> body. The natural chelating process is not performed effeiciently in
> many people, and because of this, a good deal of the mineral
> supplements they take are of little use.
> When youi realize that the body does not use whatever it takes in,
> that most of us do not digest our foods efficiently, thatonly 2 to
> 10% of inorganic iron taken into the body is actually absorbed, and,
> even with this small percentage, 50% is then eliminated, you can
> recognize the importance of taking minerals that have been chelated.
> Amino acid bound chelated mineral supplements provide 3 to 10 times
> greater assimilation than the non-chelated ones, and are well worth
> the additional cost. And they do cost more.
> When buying minerals, look for chelated on the label. Only 10% of
> ordinary minerals will be assimilated by the body, buty when combined
> with amino acids in chelation, assimilation is 3 to 5 times more
> efficient.
> 
> >Any personal experiences or casual proffessional advice would be
> great.
> 
> I hope you are helped with this information. I personally don't have
> heart disease, but my dad does, and I have had many patients who have
> heart disease. I have been in Nursing for 11 years and have studied
> Alternative Medicine for the past 5 years. I woprk under 2 NDs with
> PhDs, and hope to be starting my own clinic soon.
> 
> Good luck to you and your father,
> Kay
> 
> --  kay   at   http://www.herbcare.com
>               or
>   --  slade at http://www.pensys.com/pages/slade
> 
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