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Article #1230Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution
From: Hostman Brevis
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:38
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:38
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"Don H" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<5_Bkc.5940$TT.2860@news-server.bigpond.net.au>... > It's hard for us humans to view ourselves objectively. As an Ancient Greek > philosopher put it - "If oxen had a god, it'd be in the form of an ox." > Remember this: in Biological Evolution there is no such thing as "progress"; > evolution is an unconscious, mechanical process, which operates according to > various laws, and is indifferent to what it produces, or extinguishes. 90% > of all species which have ever existed are extinct; so why should we be an > exception? I never said we aren't going to extinct, but we progressed beyond unconsciousness and are aware of nature and we use the things we understand to make us better, unlike worms. - because we think we can control Nature? We tend to forget, to > our peril, that we are PART of Nature. "Evolution" means "unfolding", and > this does not imply "progress"; we read "progress" into it, and think we are > the supreme achievement, instead of a complex side-branch. Our very > complexity makes us that much more vulnerable to extinction, than, say, a > cockroach, after a nuclear war. I heard this before, so what? > The human plague has spread across the > planet, and is chomping away remorselessly at the environment and resources > generally. I am reminded of the experiment whereby some small water animal > was put in a flask full of nutrient; its population grew until it ran out of > food and suffocated in its own pollution. We, too, live in "a closed > system". Yeah, so? We are going to be here for a long time untill there's nothing left?
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