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Some recent articles in Science and Nature show that the great apes, dogs,
and some birds (such a the African Grey) appear to have a sense of self and
a sense of self-awareness (hence an ego). Perhaps not as keenly developed as
ours, but never-the-less, they have an ego.

Earl


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Earl Cox
Founder and President
Scianta Intelligence, LLC
Turn Knowledge Into Intelligence
www.scianta.com


AUTHOR:
"The Fuzzy Systems Handbook" (1994)
"Fuzzy Logic for Business and Industry" (1995)

"Beyond Humanity: CyberEvolution and Future Minds"
(1996, with Greg Paul, Paleontologist/Artist)

"The Fuzzy Systems Handbook, 2nd Ed." (1998)
"Machine Intelligence Tools for Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery"
(due Early Summer 2004)



"Hostman Brevis" <apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:caeecb67.0405021041.2bb465de@posting.google.com...
> John  Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:<kpr990p0opijnkk00krcu4jjb9t061sj3f@4ax.com>...
> > On 2 May 2004 02:00:23 -0700, apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com (Hostman
> > Brevis) wrote:
>
> > And egotistical, self-serving arguments usually aren't given much
> > respect in honest debate.
>
> We (humans) are the only beings who have 'ego' (consciousness of our
> own identity). Creating virtual 'ego' for other animals (as you do) is
> laughable in any seriously honest discussion and shows you promote
> your own best interests instead (getting 'equal rights' for e.g.
> worms) by creating these false associations. That's the truth. Things
> that are not there, should not be said. Humans have ego's, animals
> don't. The bottom line is: it is wrong to view from a virtual 'ego'
> perspective of a worm (e.g.) to see if we humans are a plague or not,
> or to be superior or not simply because there isn't such a thing as a
> virtual 'ego' (as you say). I'm as honest and objective as I can be.
> Evolution happened, the bible is book of tales, animals are inferior
> and 'God' is irrelevant period.
>
>
> > >There IS no one else, so it doesn't need to be affirmed. We can say
> > >anything we want.
> >
> > With questionable credibility.
> See above.