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Article #1243Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution
From: Hostman Brevis
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 06:43
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 06:43
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"EarlCox" <earlcox@earlcoxreports.com> wrote in message news:<_jclc.52665$6m4.5904436@twister.southeast.rr.com>... > Some recent articles in Science and Nature show that the great apes, dogs, > and some birds (such a the African Grey) appear to have a sense of self and > a sense of self-awareness (hence an ego). Perhaps not as keenly developed as > ours, but never-the-less, they have an ego. > > Earl Cool. > > > -- > > > Earl Cox > Founder and President > Scianta Intelligence, LLC > Turn Knowledge Into Intelligence > www.scianta.com > > > AUTHOR: > "The Fuzzy Systems Handbook" (1994) > "Fuzzy Logic for Business and Industry" (1995) > > "Beyond Humanity: CyberEvolution and Future Minds" > (1996, with Greg Paul, Paleontologist/Artist) > > "The Fuzzy Systems Handbook, 2nd Ed." (1998) > "Machine Intelligence Tools for Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery" > (due Early Summer 2004) > > > > "Hostman Brevis" <apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:caeecb67.0405021041.2bb465de@posting.google.com... > > John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message > news:<kpr990p0opijnkk00krcu4jjb9t061sj3f@4ax.com>... > > > On 2 May 2004 02:00:23 -0700, apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com (Hostman > > > Brevis) wrote: > > > > And egotistical, self-serving arguments usually aren't given much > > > respect in honest debate. > > > > We (humans) are the only beings who have 'ego' (consciousness of our > > own identity). Creating virtual 'ego' for other animals (as you do) is > > laughable in any seriously honest discussion and shows you promote > > your own best interests instead (getting 'equal rights' for e.g. > > worms) by creating these false associations. That's the truth. Things > > that are not there, should not be said. Humans have ego's, animals > > don't. The bottom line is: it is wrong to view from a virtual 'ego' > > perspective of a worm (e.g.) to see if we humans are a plague or not, > > or to be superior or not simply because there isn't such a thing as a > > virtual 'ego' (as you say). I'm as honest and objective as I can be. > > Evolution happened, the bible is book of tales, animals are inferior > > and 'God' is irrelevant period. > > > > > > > >There IS no one else, so it doesn't need to be affirmed. We can say > > > >anything we want. > > > > > > With questionable credibility. > > See above.
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