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John  Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<nvcd901o4g4esgmb2ce4avjtb7dg3k7bn0@4ax.com>...
> On 3 May 2004 13:04:41 -0700, apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com (Hostman
> Brevis) wrote:
> 
> >> How large a human population can survive comfortably on this planet
> >> without demolishing the planetary ecology? 
> >
> >How large? I don't know, do you? Off topic.
> 
> I think that's one criteria that should be considered when deciding
> how damn 'superior' we are. 

'I think' (subjective) criteria...

> Is a species that fouls it's environment
> while overpopulating it superior?

When it's a topic of discussion, I will answer that. 

> 
> >> How long can our species
> >> survive at our present rate of population increase? 
> >
> >I don't know, do you? Off topic.
> 
> ON topic. The yeast in my wine vat multiplies without restraint, eats
> all the sugar it can reach, then dies of starvation. If humanity is no
> smarter than that, how superior are we?
Yeast is not man. We can only use the resources that are on this
planet, true, but if there's nothing left then that's too bad for most
life because we are top of the food chain. Anwers are to be found.
Before that, you say we are no smarter than yeast? Don't agree.

> We are rapidly approaching the point where we either get
> off this planet or control our population or our consumption of
> resources.
So we are smarter than yeast! ;-)

> 
> >> Maybe that will
> >> come true, I sure hope so, but those same writers also write of a
> >> future where our civilization has become so populous that it has
> >> ruined the earth. 
> >
> >I was talking about the superiority of mankind, 
> 
> So am I. The issue is, what's the criteria to be used when judging
> superiority?

Everything that mankind can do MORE than evolutionary possible, is
superior. Think of flying to the moon, or creating 'clone' life. I
think that's a good criterion.

> 
> >"Man is a 'freak of nature', but this freak, who is a part of nature,
> >has awoken from the coma called evolution. Man calls himself free,
> >above all and superior. He knows and sees the others who haven't
> >awoken and has pity for them though it's not logical."
> >
> >Hostman Brevis, 2004
> 
> Man calls himself superior. But is he? Or is he a plague, a
> pestilence. Pity may be the appropriate emotion toward the species who
> have to share the earth with us.

Pity for them for not being awakened from the coma of evolution...

> 
> ## Are you thinking, or just rearranging your prejudices?

Man is born with prejudices and dies with prejudices. In between, life
is a lie.