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Article #1257Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution
From: Dunk
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:35
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:35
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:38:40 GMT, "Don H" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> wrote: >Science has a formal structure of precedence in its range of - hypothesis, >theory, law - Theory outranks law. and for any "hypothesis" to acquire the status of "theory" it >must have much supporting evidence. To become a "law" (in the scientific >sense) it must have even more, and be capable of proof in a laboratory or >field test. That "the theory of biological evolution" is *only* a theory is It isn't *only* a theory. It is Wow! a theory! as high as anything gets in science. >because it cannot, AS A WHOLE, be proved/tested in a laboratory, etc. Which goes for all broad theories. Ever heard of quantum theory? This >doesn't mean it has no evidence to support it. >In Religion, on the other hand, any belief can become a dogma once it has >achieved priestly imprimatur; thenceforth it is sacred and not to be >questioned. Creationism is a pre-scientific guess non-scientific ongoing insistence, trying hard to become post-scientific through the defeat of science. as to how the universe >and humans originated, has no supporting evidence, and more than makes up for this politically with supporting rhetoric. It is not about science, it is about a desire to defeat science. and differs according to >which religion you belong to. >Biological Evolution is a mechanical, haphazard process, according to which >some chemical formulas achieved the ability to reproduce themselves (thus >becoming "life" forms), and this led to increasing complexity of structure, >until it produced humans and other organisms. "The survival of the fittest" >in adaptation to environment, by the process of "natural selection", sums up >the theory of biological evolution. No it doesn't. Try posting just this part in talk.origins to get an earfull! There's no moral argument involved - a >tapeworm has the same "right" to exist, as the most virtuous human. Indeed, >Humans themselves are only an accident of Nature; with our 70 vestigial >parts, we are a defective organism, and our disproportionate cerebral >cortex, based on primitive instincts, almost guarantees our extinction in a >decade or so. The Earth will then be left to insects and some few remaining >complex animals and plants which have happened to survive our predation in a >polluted planet. >"God" himself has evolved - from (1) primitive Naturism, through >(2) Animism, to >(3) Polytheism (when gods and goddesses thrived); declining to - >(4) Monotheism, as a result of the "jealous god" tribal deity, to >(5) Atheism of recent times. <---> dream on. >All gods and goddesses are memory projections of our feared authoritarian >ancestors (tribal elders), with "God" being an attenuated, magnified, image, >imposed on the cosmos. >========================= >"Jabriol" <jabriol@Batosai.jp> wrote in message >news:40734785_1@news.athenanews.com... >> >> On 6-Apr-2004, "Zachriel" <spam@zachriel.com> wrote: >> >> > And the scientifically consistent alternative theory is what exactly? >> > > >> > > which one would you accept? >> > >> > To be called a scientific theory it must be validated by the scientific >> > method: hypothesis, prediction, observation, validation, repeat. If you >> > can >> > propose an alternative theory that is consistent with the evidence and >> > capable of making valid predictions of future observations, then please >> > do. >> >> and how does evolution as the origin of man pass the above? dunk
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