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Article #1265Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution
From: Don H
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26
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"Laws" in science are, of course, descriptive, not prescriptive; they operate under certain conditions, but even if some require subsequent modification, they are still more reliable than the dogmas and taboos of religion. Science progresses by its inherent trial-and-error process, which is far more reliable than the rationalisations of religion. Between credulity and scepticism, are the tentative beliefs of science - the only reliable knowledge we have. Those who believe in the supernatural can live in their dreamworld, but shouldn't delude themselves that it is more than that. Even in ethics, the empirical test of social interaction is more humane and sensible than the rigid orthodoxy of religion; most wars raging throughout the world are by religious fundamentalists who are more self-righteous than truly righteous. ======================== "John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:mjl09012h24auntooaa2dbsrr4g7d0nkrp@4ax.com... > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:16:06 -0500, David Jensen > <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote: > > >>Science has a formal structure of precedence in its range of - hypothesis, > >>theory, law - and for any "hypothesis" to acquire the status of "theory" it > >>must have much supporting evidence. > > > >Close. > > > >>To become a "law" (in the scientific > >>sense) it must have even more, and be capable of proof in a laboratory or > >>field test. > > > >Nope. Laws in science are descriptions of relationships. Some turned out > >to be in error. > > You are correct. A scientific law is not a theory that has been > beatified. It is not related to theory at all. A scientific law is > simply a formalized observation. > > My favorite example of this is the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, > which were first stated at a time when virtually nothing was known > about heat. Scientists at the time were still arguing whether heat was > a energy or a substance. > > ## Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage. > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 102cdf,975a546dc07fb449 X-Google-Thread: f69b1,237737f085aeb181 X-Google-Thread: f64bc,86435d04433c39e7 X-Google-Thread: 111000,86435d04433c39e7 X-Google-Thread: 100202,86435d04433c39e7 X-Google-Thread: 119db8,9fe0352bcbfe13a9 X-Google-Thread: 100922,86435d04433c39e7 X-Google-Thread: 10e378,86435d04433c39e7 X-Google-Thread: fd648,318d849b6b1dad7f X-Google-Attributes: gid102cdf,gidf69b1,gidf64bc,gid111000,gid100202,gid119db8,gid100922,gid10e378,gidfd648,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-29 10:28:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news-spur1.glorb.com!news.kjsl.com!news.exile.org!abnormal.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Don H" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,alt.paranet.science,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.bio.paleontology,talk.atheism,alt.history.science,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.talk.creationism,aus.science References: <d222de3e.0403291135.69736571@posting.google.com> <Ez%9c.2271$oD.668@fe25.usenetserver.com> <406e0bc5$0$67420$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com> <k7-dnUIKNN5b2e7dRVn-gg@adelphia.com> <40734785_1@news.athenanews.com> <kDUjc.2869$TT.1677@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <47i090p6r8vnjdv3bmhs1lmcq478mkav3m@4ax.com> <mjl09012h24auntooaa2dbsrr4g7d0nkrp@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution Lines: 49 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <ZUakc.4139$TT.735@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.134.159.88 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1083259577 144.134.159.88 (Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:26:17 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:26:17 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services