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Re: Scientism? - Creationism v. Evolution

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From: Hostman Brevis
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:10
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John  Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<eu3390t4v21d01mr88eqe65psrhphojfvt@4ax.com>...
> On 29 Apr 2004 10:23:42 -0700, apocalypse_zero@hotmail.com (Hostman
> Brevis) wrote:
> 
> >> tapeworm has the same "right" to exist, as the most virtuous human.
>  
> >Nopes, don't agree. Worms don't have that right because they are
> >inferior organisms.
> 
> In whose opinion?
Okay, thay have existed for so long...so they are succesful in that
aspect. But they aren't aware of themselves and the environment, they
react on certain stimuli, so without motivation. Just 'being there'.
We (as a species) are going end I said it too! But higher lifeform
can't be compared to lower lifeforms period. It's a different quality
of life.


> > Survival of the fittest means that humans are
> >superior to other organisms. 
> 
> Superior in some respects. Not in others. You are bigger, stronger,
> and possibly more intelligent than an e-coli bacillus. The little
> bugger can still kill you!

Bad example. I am certain that e-coli can't kill me because of
penicilline antibiotic. Talking about intelligence compared to a
e-coli who by definition can't think is a stupid childish remark.

> Survival of the fittest also applies to the rabbit and the Bengal
> tiger. The latter is on the endangered species list, the former is
> not. Does that mean a rabbit is superior to a tiger?
No, afcourse not, but I'm simply extrapolating this view to a 'world
scale' where humans are involved. I know that you like to be compared
with worms and bacteria but I just don't.

> If you are ever offered polar bear meat to eat, make sure it's well
> cooked. There's an insignificant little worm found in it that causes
> trichinosis, and it will kill you, very painfully, simply because it
> can. 

Bad example. I never eat polar bears. Trichinosis is more common in
pork meat. Anyway, nowadays we can kill this insignificant worm with
ease simply because we can.

Remember I'm not saying that worms and bacteria and insects aren't
going to be there for a long time....I'm saying humans have the
capacity to gain knowledge about ecosystems and bio-chemical/physical
nature of life and with the help of that (remember penicilline) we can
overcome most of things (not all). This rapid  kind of 'enhancement'
of species, without taking millions of years is something 'unheard of'
since the existence of the first cells. Whether or not extreme
adaptation is a bad thing really remains to be seen.
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