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Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!

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From: Hugh Gibbons
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <34b8dc3d.701477672@news.mindspring.com>, cryon@mindspring.com
(Randy Smith) wrote:
! 
! Well, since we know of people who have been clinically *dead* for up
! to several hours (children drowned in icy lakes) and subsequently
! revived, then this would negate your assertion regarding "continuous
! interaction," would it not, Peter? The effects of ischemia are
! minimized due to the low temp.

I never heard of such a thing except in this thread.  When and where 
did this happen?

! Freezing *does* cause damage with current technology--great damage,
! far beyond that which is possible to repair in the immediate future.

Or, most probably, any future.

! As an analogy, if I code some very complicated message via a coding
! scheme which *you* cannot decipher, then that information, that
! message is *destroyed* so far as you are concerned, right now as of
! this moment. If however, science should advance in the science of
! cryptology and then *be able* to decode my coded message, then that
! information which you once thought lost is now "readable" to you. 

That's a false analogy.  The message is not encoded with a hard-to-break
cipher, it's erased by RANDOM damage, in other words, noise.  Once the
SNR goes negative, sorry, the message can't be recovered.  A cipher 
retains all information and does not introduce noise.

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from the convenience of your own home!
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From: hgibbons@guess.where.com (Hugh Gibbons)
Subject: Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!
Date: 1998/01/12
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