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Article #1348Re: DAMN, THAT'S COOL! (Help a fellow geek)
From: Eric Lucas
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:00
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Right. You have to define what you mean by "painting". As I see it, it's covering a surface with a uniform layer of paint a certain thickness. (Somehow you have to convert surface area to volume, and the only way to do so is to define how thick the layer of paint is.) If the paint is infinitely thin, then the volume of paint used is SA*T (surface area * thickness). If SA is infinte, then the thickness must be 1/infinity, where this infinity is of a greater degree than the infinity of the surface area. In other words, if the paint is sufficiently infinitely thin, you *can* paint the surface. There is a problem with the argument "if you can fill it, you can paint the inner surface, and therefore you can paint the outer surface": As you approach the asymptote at infinity, the layer of paint becomes thinner and thinner to an arbitrary degree, since it is being squeezed between to curves that become arbitrarily close together. Yes, if you are allowed to paint the outer surface with an infintely thin layer, you can cover it with a finite volume. However, this is contrary to the definition of painting, which generally refers to coverage with a finitely thin layer. Therefore, in the same sense that you can't paint the solid, you also can't really fill it. Eric Lucas Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> wrote in article <32F043B4.3CC3DD9D@alcyone.com>... > Jeffery Young wrote: > > > I know the math, but the physical explanation doesn't sit with me. > > The physical explanation is the distinction between mathematical surface > area and volume and realistic surface area and volume, when it comes to > painting a surface or filling a volume with paint. > > -- > Erik Max Francis, &tSftDotIotE / email: max@alcyone.com > Alcyone Systems / web: http://www.alcyone.com/max/ > San Jose, California, United States / icbm: 37 20 07 N 121 53 38 W > \ > "I am become death, / destroyer of worlds." > / J. Robert Oppenheimer (quoting legend) >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4886,b17588395f17b4cc X-Google-Attributes: gidf4886,public X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,b17588395f17b4cc X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public X-Google-Thread: 102cdf,b17588395f17b4cc X-Google-Attributes: gid102cdf,public X-Google-Thread: 1119a6,b17588395f17b4cc X-Google-Attributes: gid1119a6,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,b17588395f17b4cc X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public From: "Eric Lucas" <lucas@superlink.net> Subject: Re: DAMN, THAT'S COOL! (Help a fellow geek) Date: 1997/01/31 Message-ID: <01bc0f24$a451e100$42ad11cf@lucasea-home> X-Deja-AN: 213357778 references: <5cmpbo$nds@agate.berkeley.edu> <01bc0db2$216f18c0$b8ad11cf@lucasea-home> <5cp0bo$743@walter.cray.com> <32F043B4.3CC3DD9D@alcyone.com> organization: SuperNet Inc. (908) 828-8988 newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,sci.math,sci.physics,bionet.general,sci.chem