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Article #1352Re: DAMN, THAT'S COOL! (Help a fellow geek)
From: Larks
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:00
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Xcott Craver wrote:
>
> In article <5cmpbo$nds@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> Louis Hom <lhom@nature.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> >So, I'm trying to collect posters' favorite Things in Math & Science.
> > For example, one of my favorite things is the solid that you get
> >when you rotate y=1/(log x) about the x-axis -- it has finite volume but an
> >infinite surface. So if you had a container that shape, you could fill it
> >up with some finite quantity of paint, but it would never be enough to
> >actually paint the surface of the thing.
>
> Or, a cylindrical can whose base is the Koch snowflake would
> do the trick, and would actually fit on a shelf.
>
> I think it would be more mind-boggling to point out that
> the can holds a finite amount of paint, but it takes an infinite amount
> of paint to paint THE INSIDE. Aren't you technically painting the
> inside when you fill it up with that finite amount of paint???
>
> Of course, this problem stems from the abstraction that the
> layer of paint you lay down on a surface is infinitely thin, which
> isn't true in reality, and serves as an amusing reminder that areas
> and volumes are not comparable mathematically the way they are in
> the real world.
Exactly. The problem stems from extending mathematics to the physical
world while retaining multiple assumptions which apply only in
the abstract mathematical sense. If I may get philosophical for a
sentence or two, that's where mathematics and physics part company.
In physics, a result must make sense; in mathematics, it must follow
from mathematical manipulation and, if it makes no sense, it is
added to the list of examples of things deserving of a Nobel prize,
if only math had one.
>
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> 888o. ,oo ,8oooo88. 888 thousand-dollar-a-night hooker blush like
> `888oooo88 o88o o888o 888 a nun."
> ____________________8o888'______________-Hank Jennings, _Twin_Peaks._ _____
Larks -- Wondering what a night with a $1000/night hooker would
entail.
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