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Why am I doing this?(read at bottom)

THE MCCALL SCAM REVEALED

The guy advertises a roulette system on the net and then backs out on
the refund, he is legally obligated to provide a refund, yet he denies
the customer's existance after the customer purchases for him,
eventhough I have a website of my own(listed at bottom of this message),
I am not afraid to get the facts out.  What I'm offering IS valuable
gambling infromation, what McCall is offering, is something he read off
the back of a breakfeast placement in vegas giving some advice to
roulette players. We've all discovered his system anyway, but here it
is:

Many of you know me, my name is Joseph Toth, and I am fullfilling the
legal obligations of Mr. McCall and getting people their refunds through
McCall LEGALLY.  If anyone has ordered McCall's System, here is what you
do to get your money back, first here is the email I sent to him a
minute ago:

Dear Mr. McCall,

        I am forwarding this email to you from one of your customers
that is
requesting a refund, you have not gotten back to his numerous email's,
so I thought I'd forward this email to you as a courtesy to you.(No need
to thank me)
        I will be forwarding you more emails of customers requesting
refunds,
as per your webpage.  I had my corporate lawyer take a look at this
situation and have offered to give free legal advice to all victims of
your system, as to how they can secure judgments against you for the
amount owing.  But all this should'nt bother you, if the person below is
NOT your customer, and he does NOT have a reciept of a money order that
he sent to your name, that his bank informed him that WAS cashed by a J.
Mccall, and that my lawyer saw the printed version of your website at
the time of his order which stated you do offer a guarantee.  I hope I
don't hear from you,, bye.
        

((Customer name and Information here))

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	You can file a civil law suit against Mccall for only $25(canada court
cost), If he does not respond to your lawsuit in 14 days, you are
automatically awarded a judgment against his name for $100 + court
costs.  If he is using a false name or alias, the court's can be made
aware of this, and the courts will order that his true identity be
revealed(thorough ISP records etc..) and may even charge him with
misrepresentation. 
	I Have spoken to my corporate lawyer about this and he feels confident
that "customers" of Mccall can get their money back AS PER his guarantee
as long as they have a copy of the draft or money order that they have
sent him.
	Option number 2 is to file a MASS LAWSUIT against him, all customers of
his system could get back to me and I will put you all on my mailing
list and talking to my lawyer on how we could proceed with a Mass
Lawsuit. And keep you continually updated, I suspect the court cost's
will be cheaper as well, and if the amount is big($1,000+) a judge will
take it more seriously, especially since we can present the judge with
the names and address of the 100+ people that have ordered Mccall's
system. 
	My motivation to do all this is to get a scam artist off the net.



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Why am I doing this?

	I'm tired of people getting ripped off on the net with useless gambling
information that MCcall offers, by the way for all you people that don't
know McCall's brilliant system, here it is:(free of charge) ( ignore the
commands in arrows <html> and <p>, these are just html tags that make
the below appear as a webpage.)



><HTML>
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><HEAD>
><TITLE>The Proven Roulette System</TITLE>
></HEAD>
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><BODY>
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><BODY BGCOLOR=FFFFFF LINK=FF0000 VLINK=FF0000 ALINK=00BFFF
onLoad="defaultStatus=' ';return true">
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><FONT FACE=ARIAL SIZE=3 COLOR=000000>
><B>
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><FONT SIZE=5 COLOR=DA70D6>
><CENTER>The Proven Roulette System</CENTER>
></FONT>
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><HR SIZE=0 ALIGN=CENTER>
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><P>
>This system was designed to be used on the outside wheel, betting only on
the dozens.
></P>
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><P>
>The table is divided into three dozens: from one to twelve, thirteen to
twenty-four and twenty-five to thirty-six. I am going to refer to them
from
this point on as the first section (1-12), second section (13-24) and
third
section (25-36). This system ignores the existence of the zero or zeros.
></P>
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><P>
>The amount that you begin with (your bankroll) and your average bet is
irrelevant to the success of this system.
></P>
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><P>
>Before you place your first bet, you must wait for a hit within the first
section. The chance of it falling within the first section is
theoretically
33%. But, if you watch for a while you will begin to notice that it hits
within the first section much less than it theoretically should.
></P>
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><P>
>Once it hits within the first section, be prepared to place your first bet.
></P>
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><P>
>Place two bets down. Place one bet in the second section and place one bet
in the third section. The objective of this strategy is to cover 66% of
the
numbers (excluding the zero or zeros). The odds in these sections are 2
to
1. Therefore, if it hits anywhere between 13 and 36, you win and will
collect one extra unit than what you laid down.
></P>
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><P>
>Following your first win, I suggest you repeat the same bet only two more
consecutive times. After the third hit within the second or third
section
the likelihood of a hit in the first section is much greater.
></P>
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><P>
>At this point, just sit back and wait till the next time it hits in the
first section. Then simply repeat the process again.
></P>
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><P>
>An alternative to waiting that I often employ is to move to another table
and watch for a hit in the first section. Then deploy this powerful
system
again! <FONT COLOR=FF0000>Caution!</FONT> If you utilize this method,
make
sure you are using casino chips and not roulette chips (aka colors). If
you
leave the table with roulette chips they become worthless because their
values are variable and set by the individual tables.
></P>
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><P>
>If, however, you are very unfortunate and lose a game. Don't fret. It's
very easy to catch up. At this point, you must immediately place another
two
bets down, one on the second section and one on the third. Don't forget
the
rule of the system: place your bets after it hits in the first section.
The
rule still applies if you were playing a particular game and it hits in
the
first section subsequently causing you to lose.
></P>
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><P>
>I suggest that you play again only one other time after a loss. If the
first section comes up twice in a row, it's time to take a break and let
the
first section streak wear itself out before continuing play. This
reduces
your chances of suffering losses which will take a considerable amount
of
wins in order to recover from. When I play I never tempt fate and bet
against a strong first section streak.
></P>
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><P>
>It is one thing to have access to and knowledge of a powerful, winning
system like mine. However, you must still exercise a certain amount of
judgment and commonsense when playing roulette.
></P>
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><P>
>If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to e-mail
me at <A HREF="MAILTO:prs88@hotmail.com?SUBJECT=The Proven Roulette
System -
Online Support" onMouseOver="window.status='The Proven Roulette System -
Online Support';return true">prs88@hotmail.com</A> anytime.
></P>
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><P>
>Good luck!
></P>
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><P>
>Joseph McCall
></P>
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><HR SIZE=0 ALIGN=CENTER>
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><P>
><FONT SIZE=5 COLOR=DA70D6>
><CENTER>The Guarantee...</CENTER>
></FONT>
></P>
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><P>
>I guarantee that you will double the amount of money that you have spent on
purchasing this system. You should be able to cover the cost of this
system
and have $100US extra in your pocket. If you can't double the amount
that
you spent on purchasing this system, then I will refund your purchase
price
in its entirety.
></P>
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><HR SIZE=0 ALIGN=CENTER>
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><P>
>P.S.
></P>
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><P>
>I would really appreciate it if you could photocopy or scan some of your
impressive winning checks and send them along with a few comments which
I
will post on my site for others to admire. I will, of course, pixelize
your
pertinent information before posting any of your checks.
></P>
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><HR SIZE=0 ALIGN=CENTER>
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><P>
><FONT COLOR=FF0000>
><CENTER>Thank you for purchasing The Proven Roulette System.</CENTER>
></FONT>
></P>
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></B>
></FONT>
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></BODY>
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></HTML>
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>Copyright 1997 The Proven Roulette System, Joseph McCall Inc.
>--!>
>
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After sending this system out to customers, he DENY'S the person in
question as being his customer and says his system has NOTHING TO DO
with the 2nd and 3rd dozen,  DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS GUY.
He also has another guy named "James Hathaway" ( why did'nt you just
make up a name like "Big Bird", it would sound much more real) and this
"James Hathaway" guy has is on website on the same server as McCalls,
promoting McCalls system.  Let's take a look at an email McCall wrote
me: anything with a >> in front of it, is me(Joseph Toth) asking him a
question.



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Hello again Mr. Toth,

It's great to hear from you again! I hope you've been well.

>Let's cut the crap buddy, are you telling me that mr. hathaway is not
>mr. mcall? 

I am Joseph McCall, *not* James Hathaway. James Hathaway is *not* Joseph 
McCall. I hope this answers your question, Mr. Toth.

>are you telling me that all that hatemail in the newsgroups is
>intended for a different mr.mcall?

What hate mail in the newsgroups? You must understand that I don't 
follow the newsgroups anymore. I just don't have the time for it and I 
don't see a point in it.

Besides, if there is a lot of hate mail, then isn't that evidence that I 
also have a lot of customers? I mean, if only 2 out of every 10 
customers complains about me on the newsgroups, then that's a lot of 
customers!

Therefore, even if the hate mail exists, it doesn't bother me one bit. 
As a matter of fact, I use it as a gauge of my success.

>are you telling me your system is NOT bet the 2nd and 3rd dozen after
>the 1st dozen hits?

Wrong, Mr. Toth. That is *not* the premise of any of my systems.
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If you want to contact me(Joseph Toth), take a look at my site:

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/jtoth/