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Surf System Used In Vegas
#60
Author: Joseph
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:00
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An amazing system at for any Even Chance at:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/jtoth/
Excerpt From Last Trip to Vegas:
I was playing with 3 other players, all of which my customers, it was
our
most memorable night in Vegas. Johnny(young 20 something guy),
Alex(41 year old teacher) and good old David(24-computer guy). We
were all doing well for about a week and played 17 sessions(1 session =
5 shoes) all together(within a week). We all played regular surf
Baccarat on all the shoes and were ahead 221 units(after commission)
for 17 sessions(averaging 13 Units per session). We were playing $25
dollar units and were not betting tie because I wanted to show these
guys the steady profits the system will show if you just play the
system.(Incidentally, looking back at it, we would have been ahead a lot
more if we played the tie, according to my tie strategy, more on this
later). We were all happy as could be with our winnings and began
another day of session play.

After 2 sessions with results being: +2 units in first session and even
in
2nd session, we were all a bit agitated and annoyed. Almost 10 long
hours of play with only a $50 profit. I knew something was off, and
predicted that it was probability and there had to be good shoe soon. So
I told everyone to stay for ONE MORE SESSION so we could make
some money for the day.

First Shoe of Session:

The time is 3:00AM

The Place: MGM Grand Las Vegas

The game: Baccarat

It was late and there was only us 4 at the table and then a group of 3
Asian gamblers. Johnny, Alex and Dave were following the system just
as I was and were betting the same place and amount that I was. We
waited out the first three hands and saw 3 banks, 4th hand came along
so I bet on bank, and won, then bet bank and won again, then bank
again, [6 banks so far]. The Asian players at the corner of the table
were all dropping like flies, they were betting
player(100,200,200,300,400) and they were getting cleaned right out.
Right after seeing this, and just by instinct knowing this is going to
be a
good shoe, I whispered to my friends in these exact words,"O.K. guy's
we're going to play aggressive, just follow my lead and stay calm,
understood?", they all nodded in agreement. I was going to MILK this
bank streak for everything it had, cause I knew were due for it, and
with careful M.M and use of my system, we sat out 10 potentially
dangerous shoe's all for this moment. So I played aggressive, (next bet
= last bet + half of last bet) So I put $300 on bank and won again, then
$450, $675, $940, $1410. Eleven banks later, the Asians started
running out of money they were still betting PLAYER!!, then they ran
out of money and stopped playing, I KNEW it would switch but I would
never bet against a run, we played aggressive and a had a good profit,
my #1 rule is to NEVER leave a winning streak, but in the case of
aggressive play, I was a bit more careful, I told everyone to back off
and sit the next hand out, they all asked me why, but I said just wait
and let's see what happens, we were already up HUGE. 12 th hand
came out of the shoe, the blond female dealer dealt a Natural 9 player,
over Natural 8 Bank. David whispered in my ear,"Your the master".
Then it went to a 10 long random run where we racked up another
$3,000. 3 count them 3 pit bosses where starring at me and David, 1
directly behind me, STARRING at our scorecards, another looking for
a waitress to get me drunk and another eyeing my other 2 buddies, but
I MAINTAINED control and used my system diligently till the end of
the shoe, I gathered a crowd, but remained PERFECTLY calm and
quite throughout my whole winning streak. Then the MOST
AMAZING Tie opportunity came up, there was a 12 repeat trend
pattern leading to the previous tie, TWELVE, and that same trend
repeated, we were close to the last hand in the shoe and had not bet tie
in the shoe, we were up about $9000 and the 6's were not showing up,
since we were the only one's betting, I stopped and consulted with my
friends,"Hey guys this is a tie guaranteed, we played aggressive, we
are Way up, let's risk 500 each on tie, I know it's a lot but it's there
and
besides we are already up $8000(320 units)." Alex said, "No way Joe
are you crazy, that's way too much". After a little argument and the
dealer being "annoyed" that we were taking our time, I put 500 on tie,
Johnny put 500 on tie and David put 500 on tie, the hand was a sit out
anyway and were just about to leave so Alex sat out clutching his chips,
thinking we've all gone crazy. He saw the 12 trend repeat to tie, but
didn�t bet tie. Next hand: jack-6 for player, king-6 for banker, 6-6
tie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we Won $4,000 on that tie, and left the 500 on tie,
Alex
was in amazement at all the purple and white chips we were getting, he
didn�t say a word but just shaked his head and said, "You guys will
NEVER get that double tie", right after that, I ordered the dealer,"OK
let's go, deal the cards,". Player gets 10-7, Bank gets 10-7, 7-7
tie!!!!!!!
another $4,000. We left it on again but that was the last hand of the
shoe. We made $16,000!!!!!! from ONE SHOE playing aggressive,
against my better judgment, we all jumped up and down in amazement
and cheered, Alex didn�t say a word for 10 minutes after that, he
looked like he was going to cry(sorry Alex).

I told the guys to cash in and then we could go for a drink in my hotel
room to celebrate. 10 minutes later I get a knock on my door!!!!!!!,
it's
a pit boss from downstairs, he offers me a high rollers suite and free
dinner and shows and liquor for my room, on the house, I casually joked
," what about the women?" his reply was in a calm low voice with his
hand on my shoulder ,whispering into my ear :" I'll see what I can do
sir", and then I just laughed and said just kidding, we moved into the
high rollers suite. The results of that shoe by just playing the surf
system would have been +28 units. So we still would have made money,
but it's this kind of aggressive playing and risktaking that gets you
the
fast bucks(and I'm not an action player, I'm a grind player). Later that
evening, everyone learned their lesson: 10 bad shoes and 2 break even
session, = an AWESOME session to come! We should have stayed and
played 4 more shoes to end that 3rd session for the evening but the
aggressive play made us all happy to leave with our profit and start
tomorrow. The next day we went to see Sigfried and Roy, met up with
some other customers and they all insisted I put it on my site so here
it
is!!!!!!
Re: Surf System Used In Vegas
#63
Author: MavMan
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:00
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You must really be ignorant!  You bet a certain way because you knew you
were due??  Everyone knows each bet is a unique event and the previous bet
has no effect whatsoever on the next.  I've heard this line of reasoning
called the gamblers fallacy.  don't get trapped in it.  If the odds of
winning are 2-1, then the odds of winning are 2-1 no matter what happened on
the previous hand or roll of the dice or spin of the wheel or what ever.


>Excerpt From Last Trip to Vegas:
>I was playing with 3 other players, all of which my customers, it was
>our
>most memorable night in Vegas. Johnny(young 20 something guy),
>Alex(41 year old teacher) and good old David(24-computer guy). We
>were all doing well for about a week and played 17 sessions(1 session =
>5 shoes) all together(within a week). We all played regular surf
>Baccarat on all the shoes and were ahead 221 units(after commission)
>for 17 sessions(averaging 13 Units per session). We were playing $25
>dollar units and were not betting tie because I wanted to show these
>guys the steady profits the system will show if you just play the
>system.(Incidentally, looking back at it, we would have been ahead a lot
>more if we played the tie, according to my tie strategy, more on this
>later). We were all happy as could be with our winnings and began
>another day of session play.
>
>After 2 sessions with results being: +2 units in first session and even
>in
>2nd session, we were all a bit agitated and annoyed. Almost 10 long
>hours of play with only a $50 profit. I knew something was off, and
>predicted that it was probability and there had to be good shoe soon. So
>I told everyone to stay for ONE MORE SESSION so we could make
>some money for the day.
>
>First Shoe of Session:
>
>The time is 3:00AM
>
>The Place: MGM Grand Las Vegas
>
>The game: Baccarat
>
>It was late and there was only us 4 at the table and then a group of 3
>Asian gamblers. Johnny, Alex and Dave were following the system just
>as I was and were betting the same place and amount that I was. We
>waited out the first three hands and saw 3 banks, 4th hand came along
>so I bet on bank, and won, then bet bank and won again, then bank
>again, [6 banks so far]. The Asian players at the corner of the table
>were all dropping like flies, they were betting
>player(100,200,200,300,400) and they were getting cleaned right out.
>Right after seeing this, and just by instinct knowing this is going to
>be a
>good shoe, I whispered to my friends in these exact words,"O.K. guy's
>we're going to play aggressive, just follow my lead and stay calm,
>understood?", they all nodded in agreement. I was going to MILK this
>bank streak for everything it had, cause I knew were due for it, and
>with careful M.M and use of my system, we sat out 10 potentially
>dangerous shoe's all for this moment. So I played aggressive, (next bet
>= last bet + half of last bet) So I put $300 on bank and won again, then
>$450, $675, $940, $1410. Eleven banks later, the Asians started
>running out of money they were still betting PLAYER!!, then they ran
>out of money and stopped playing, I KNEW it would switch but I would
>never bet against a run, we played aggressive and a had a good profit,
>my #1 rule is to NEVER leave a winning streak, but in the case of
>aggressive play, I was a bit more careful, I told everyone to back off
>and sit the next hand out, they all asked me why, but I said just wait
>and let's see what happens, we were already up HUGE. 12 th hand
>came out of the shoe, the blond female dealer dealt a Natural 9 player,
>over Natural 8 Bank. David whispered in my ear,"Your the master".
>Then it went to a 10 long random run where we racked up another
>$3,000. 3 count them 3 pit bosses where starring at me and David, 1
>directly behind me, STARRING at our scorecards, another looking for
>a waitress to get me drunk and another eyeing my other 2 buddies, but
>I MAINTAINED control and used my system diligently till the end of
>the shoe, I gathered a crowd, but remained PERFECTLY calm and
>quite throughout my whole winning streak. Then the MOST
>AMAZING Tie opportunity came up, there was a 12 repeat trend
>pattern leading to the previous tie, TWELVE, and that same trend
>repeated, we were close to the last hand in the shoe and had not bet tie
>in the shoe, we were up about $9000 and the 6's were not showing up,
>since we were the only one's betting, I stopped and consulted with my
>friends,"Hey guys this is a tie guaranteed, we played aggressive, we
>are Way up, let's risk 500 each on tie, I know it's a lot but it's there
>and
>besides we are already up $8000(320 units)." Alex said, "No way Joe
>are you crazy, that's way too much". After a little argument and the
>dealer being "annoyed" that we were taking our time, I put 500 on tie,
>Johnny put 500 on tie and David put 500 on tie, the hand was a sit out
>anyway and were just about to leave so Alex sat out clutching his chips,
>thinking we've all gone crazy. He saw the 12 trend repeat to tie, but
>didn�t bet tie. Next hand: jack-6 for player, king-6 for banker, 6-6
>tie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we Won $4,000 on that tie, and left the 500 on tie,
>Alex
>was in amazement at all the purple and white chips we were getting, he
>didn�t say a word but just shaked his head and said, "You guys will
>NEVER get that double tie", right after that, I ordered the dealer,"OK
>let's go, deal the cards,". Player gets 10-7, Bank gets 10-7, 7-7
>tie!!!!!!!
>another $4,000. We left it on again but that was the last hand of the
>shoe. We made $16,000!!!!!! from ONE SHOE playing aggressive,
>against my better judgment, we all jumped up and down in amazement
>and cheered, Alex didn�t say a word for 10 minutes after that, he
>looked like he was going to cry(sorry Alex).
>
>I told the guys to cash in and then we could go for a drink in my hotel
>room to celebrate. 10 minutes later I get a knock on my door!!!!!!!,
>it's
>a pit boss from downstairs, he offers me a high rollers suite and free
>dinner and shows and liquor for my room, on the house, I casually joked
>," what about the women?" his reply was in a calm low voice with his
>hand on my shoulder ,whispering into my ear :" I'll see what I can do
>sir", and then I just laughed and said just kidding, we moved into the
>high rollers suite. The results of that shoe by just playing the surf
>system would have been +28 units. So we still would have made money,
>but it's this kind of aggressive playing and risktaking that gets you
>the
>fast bucks(and I'm not an action player, I'm a grind player). Later that
>evening, everyone learned their lesson: 10 bad shoes and 2 break even
>session, = an AWESOME session to come! We should have stayed and
>played 4 more shoes to end that 3rd session for the evening but the
>aggressive play made us all happy to leave with our profit and start
>tomorrow. The next day we went to see Sigfried and Roy, met up with
>some other customers and they all insisted I put it on my site so here
>it
>is!!!!!!
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