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Bill Wilson wrote:
> 
> I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I
> have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a
> 486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no
> problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via.
> modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very
> jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed
> on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a
> modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to
> improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also
> getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
> 
> I played against another friend who has a Pentium and we had no problems
> at all. Both of our machines ran at normal speed and had no errors.
> 
> Any ideas as to the cause of these problems? Is there any way to fix
> this?
> 
> If anyone can help, please e-mail me at billw@bit.net.au
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>                                         Bill Wilson

I have had a similiar problem with my 486 100mhz playing against my
friends who have Pentiums. Although we don't get sync error. We also
both have 28.8

On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 08:56:57 -0400, Justin LaBroad
<ArchMagus@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Bill Wilson wrote:
>> 
>> I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I
>> have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a
>> 486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no
>> problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via.
>> modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very
>> jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed
>> on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a
>> modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to
>> improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also
>> getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
>> 
>> I played against another friend who has a Pentium and we had no problems
>> at all. Both of our machines ran at normal speed and had no errors.
>> 
>> Any ideas as to the cause of these problems? Is there any way to fix
>> this?
>> 
>> If anyone can help, please e-mail me at billw@bit.net.au
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>                                         Bill Wilson
>
>I have had a similiar problem with my 486 100mhz playing against my
>friends who have Pentiums. Although we don't get sync error. We also
>both have 28.8

	Out of sync errors are mostly caused by running the game at a
higher connection than 9600. 3Drealms put a nice little warning in the
settings that tells you to keep it at 9600, my friend and i said "the
hell with that, 28.8 is the way to go!" well out of synce errors
plagued our night of fun (usually getting 3 or 4 a night). We set it
to 9600 and have had 2 out of sync errors in about 20 nights of
playing. 

M.B. wrote:
> 
>         Out of sync errors are mostly caused by running the game at a
> higher connection than 9600. 3Drealms put a nice little warning in the
> settings that tells you to keep it at 9600, my friend and i said "the
> hell with that, 28.8 is the way to go!" well out of synce errors
> plagued our night of fun (usually getting 3 or 4 a night). We set it
> to 9600 and have had 2 out of sync errors in about 20 nights of
> playing.

We were running the game at 9600!
The problem only happens when connecting my Pentium 100 to a 486 DX2-66.
There are no problems when connecting 2 Pentiums!

                                 Bill Wilson

On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:40:11 +1100, Bill Wilson <billw@bit.net.au> wrote:

>I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I 
>have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a 
>486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no 
>problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via. 
>modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very 
>jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed 
>on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a 
>modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to 
>improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also 
>getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
>
>I played against another friend who has a Pentium and we had no problems 
>at all. Both of our machines ran at normal speed and had no errors.
>
>Any ideas as to the cause of these problems? Is there any way to fix 
>this?

I would say that the problem is more with the modems, not 486 v Pentium.
I've had my 486 connected to a p100 with the same problems you describe
using a modem, but connecting with a different p100 with a serial cable if
fine (as fine as a 486 can be running duke).

No idea how to fix it though!

--
Dean Bobin
mailto:dbobin@zeta.org.au
http://www.zeta.org.au/~dbobin

On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 08:56:57 -0400, Justin LaBroad
<ArchMagus@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Bill Wilson wrote:
>> 
>> I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I
>> have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a
>> 486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no
>> problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via.
>> modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very
>> jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed
>> on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a
>> modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to
>> improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also
>> getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
>> 

Me and a friend with compatible computers had sync problems too. It
always occured when either of us would kill an innoncent girl trapped
in a cocoon (by accident of course! :) ) We finally figured it out:
his Duke Swear frequency was set to 100 while mine was at the default
42. Even little changes such as these can screw up the sync.
I would suggest that both of you repplace all 3 .con files with the
ones on the original CD and see if that helps your sync problems.
Hope I was of some help
King Felix

If anyone solves this *PLEASE* let me know.

I've been playing the same friend literally for months with no
problems.  Me on my 486/66, him on his 486/50.  Well, he just
upgraded to a Pentium Pro 200, and last night was a true debacle.

We could play the game fine, no sync errors, etc. *BUT*:

Same as described below.  He was "smooth as silk" on his end.  I had
choppy control.  Not too bad, but eventually I realized the reason
I was getting my butt kicked was I had no fine tune control on my
aiming.  A single tap on an arrow key (run mode OFF) might rotate me
anywhere from 1/8 to a full 1/4 turn.  (Normally it's a pretty even
match, and lately I was generally winning, but last night I lost 
124 to 15 - but those 15 were oh so sweet).

PLEASE HELP!.

dbobin@zeta.org.au (Dean Bobin) wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:40:11 +1100, Bill Wilson <billw@bit.net.au> wrote:

>>I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I 
>>have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a 
>>486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no 
>>problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via. 
>>modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very 
>>jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed 
>>on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a 
>>modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to 
>>improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also 
>>getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
>>
>>I played against another friend who has a Pentium and we had no problems 
>>at all. Both of our machines ran at normal speed and had no errors.
>>
>>Any ideas as to the cause of these problems? Is there any way to fix 
>>this?

>I would say that the problem is more with the modems, not 486 v Pentium.
>I've had my 486 connected to a p100 with the same problems you describe
>using a modem, but connecting with a different p100 with a serial cable if
>fine (as fine as a 486 can be running duke).

>No idea how to fix it though!

>--
>Dean Bobin
>mailto:dbobin@zeta.org.au
>http://www.zeta.org.au/~dbobin

Steve,

Your problem may be caused by the difference in UART processors. 16550 
UARTS are required as an absolute minimum when playing Duke3D. As _most_ 
486 machines were built with 8250 UART's and _all_ Pentium machines have 
16550's I would say this would be a good place to start looking.

Hope this helps.

Brad.



steveg@cseic.saic.com (Stephen H. Goldstein) wrote:
>If anyone solves this *PLEASE* let me know.
>
>I've been playing the same friend literally for months with no
>problems.  Me on my 486/66, him on his 486/50.  Well, he just
>upgraded to a Pentium Pro 200, and last night was a true debacle.
>
>We could play the game fine, no sync errors, etc. *BUT*:
>
>Same as described below.  He was "smooth as silk" on his end.  I had
>choppy control.  Not too bad, but eventually I realized the reason
>I was getting my butt kicked was I had no fine tune control on my
>aiming.  A single tap on an arrow key (run mode OFF) might rotate me
>anywhere from 1/8 to a full 1/4 turn.  (Normally it's a pretty even
>match, and lately I was generally winning, but last night I lost 
>124 to 15 - but those 15 were oh so sweet).
>
>PLEASE HELP!.
>
>dbobin@zeta.org.au (Dean Bobin) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:40:11 +1100, Bill Wilson <billw@bit.net.au> wrote:
>
>>>I have been having problems playing modem games with a friend of mine. I 
>>>have a Pentium 100 with 16 meg RAM and 14.4 modem, and my friend has a 
>>>486 DX2-66 with, I think, 20 meg RAM and 28.8 modem. My friend has no 
>>>problems running Duke 3D by himself, but when we are connected via. 
>>>modem his computer runs much slower than usual and the screen is very 
>>>jerky, making the game impossible to play. The game runs at normal speed 
>>>on my machine. I is only my friend's machine which run slower during a 
>>>modem game. We are both running the min. screen resolution to try to 
>>>improve the speed, but this has made little difference. We are also 
>>>getting a lot of "out of sync." errors.
>>>
>>>I played against another friend who has a Pentium and we had no problems 
>>>at all. Both of our machines ran at normal speed and had no errors.
>>>
>>>Any ideas as to the cause of these problems? Is there any way to fix 
>>>this?
>
>>I would say that the problem is more with the modems, not 486 v Pentium.
>>I've had my 486 connected to a p100 with the same problems you describe
>>using a modem, but connecting with a different p100 with a serial cable if
>>fine (as fine as a 486 can be running duke).
>
>>No idea how to fix it though!
>
>>--
>>Dean Bobin
>>mailto:dbobin@zeta.org.au
>>http://www.zeta.org.au/~dbobin
>
>

I had the same problem ...I changed the settings to generic hayes
compatible modem and the problem was fixed!

My Problem is that only one of the machines (The Faster one) can answer
the call. That is, The faster machine has to be in answer mode to
establish a good link. The other way round it wont work.....any clues!?

 
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cybermage wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem ...I changed the settings to generic hayes
> compatible modem and the problem was fixed!
> 
> My Problem is that only one of the machines (The Faster one) can answer
> the call. That is, The faster machine has to be in answer mode to
> establish a good link. The other way round it wont work.....any clues!?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> CyberMage
> 
> Email : cybermage@hal9000.net.au
> WWW   : http://hal9000.net.au/~rsegal/
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> |OH dear! I thought I shouldn't have tested this Love virus on my own |
> | Computer at home. Now it wants to kiss me. (smooch!). Don't do that!|
> | Wow! I didn't know it could do that! ur..What honey? Yes I will come|
> | to bed soon!...Just reconfiguring the operating system a couple more|
> | Times!                                         Trust No One!        |
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
CyberMage, do I know you from Nuke Chat a llllloooooonnnnnnggggggg time
ago?

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