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Go to www.tomshardware.com and look at the comparison charts between the AMD
and Intel chips, it was written back a few months ago.  The Celeron out
performs the K6-2,3 in everything except a few general business
applications.  The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
against the Pentiums.

DodgeWax




Geo wrote in message <9jDL3.143$Jd5.6321@news2-hme0>...
>I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
>3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
>450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
>Would games like Half-Life run faster with 3D Now.
>
>Please send any info via email.
>
>many thanks
>
>
>
>

I forgot to mention. The new AMD Athlon is the best game processor you can
buy, it's substantially faster than all the Pentiums, including the Xeon. It
has both 3D-Now! and MMX capabilities.

DodgeWax




Geo wrote in message <9jDL3.143$Jd5.6321@news2-hme0>...
>I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
>3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
>450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
>Would games like Half-Life run faster with 3D Now.
>
>Please send any info via email.
>
>many thanks
>
>
>
>

Here's a better link:
http://www5.tomshardware.com/releases/99q1/990223/index.html




Geo wrote in message <9jDL3.143$Jd5.6321@news2-hme0>...
>I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
>3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
>450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
>Would games like Half-Life run faster with 3D Now.
>
>Please send any info via email.
>
>many thanks
>
>
>
>

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:37:07 +0100, "Geo" <gerald.mctaggart@ic24.net>
wrote:

>I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor for
>3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running at
>450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
Yes, Read the links that dodge gave.

As much as I cheer  AMD on, I wouldn't recommend a k6. The floating
point performance just isn't there relative to a celeron.

Between the celeron and k6-3, the celeron will win, but put a K7-Athlon
against any intel chip and it will kick arse.

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Geo <gerald.mctaggart@ic24.net> wrote in message
news:9jDL3.143$Jd5.6321@news2-hme0...
> I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
> 3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
> 450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
> Would games like Half-Life run faster with 3D Now.
>
> Please send any info via email.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
>

The Celerons in his tests were overclocked.

Rod wrote in message <37ffd7c6.3619702@news.ihug.co.nz>...
>>The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
>>against the Pentiums.
>
>whats this!?
>500/100 celeron.
>try again.
>all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.
>

>The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
>against the Pentiums.

whats this!?
500/100 celeron.
try again.
all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.

yo there,

i suggest to get AMD K6 III because i have this one too (450 speed)
get a good card and there you go. JUST PERFECT. but as the people here say.
it depends how much money you want to spend

if i look at my half life.. it plays perfect (nice graphics, smooth game)

i also wanted to buy to athlon but the mainboard of this processor is
difficult to get. and the prices of memory is going sky high. so everything
is expensive at this moment.

PIII is also fine but the price hmmmm.. you see?

good luck with choosing your cpu

Geo <gerald.mctaggart@ic24.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
9jDL3.143$Jd5.6321@news2-hme0...
> I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
> 3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
> 450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
>
> Would games like Half-Life run faster with 3D Now.
>
> Please send any info via email.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
>

if you're really game,
try to find a week 30 or later 366 PPGA
its a better than 90% chance that this CPU will do 550mhz stably
I have an old w14 that does it, but overheats when used at the edge - such
as playing games!
check out alt.comp.hardware.overclocking for more information.
c366's are so cheap that you could probably afford the extra CPU on top of
the 466
Make sure you get a slotkey (that funny bit which turns a PPGA into a SECC)
which supports voltage adjust
and a high quality mobo Asus/AOpen (my fav)/Abit/Soyo
My 366@550 + Viper 550 clocked 35fps at 800*600 in HQH's Bench2 bench mark
very, very nice

MattyD

<sscaggs@jcn.net> wrote in message news:37ff4e4b.382621@news.dra.com...
> On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:37:07 +0100, "Geo" <gerald.mctaggart@ic24.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I am going to buy a new PC and I am wondering what is the best processor
for
> >3D games, a Intel Celeron running at 466mhz or an AMD K6-3 3D Now running
at
> >450mhz.  In an unbiased opinion, whats the fastest.
> >
> Yes, Read the links that dodge gave.
>
> As much as I cheer  AMD on, I wouldn't recommend a k6. The floating
> point performance just isn't there relative to a celeron.

That would be a Celeron 333/66 overclocked on a 100 Mhz FSB to 500.
There aren't any Intel spec'd 100Mhz bus Celerons as you noted.

Take a stock Celeron and calculate the clock multiplier. In this case,
333/66=5. Run the bus at 100 instead of 66 and 5x100=500. Easy way to
damage it too if you don't know what you're doing, but it CAN be done.


Rod wrote:
> 
> >The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
> >against the Pentiums.
> 
> whats this!?
> 500/100 celeron.
> try again.
> all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.

Actually,
There are Celeron 500s with 100FSB on them now.
You can get them in a HP desktop.
Don't know if boxed Celerons are shipped only for 66, but 100 is out there.

Cheers,
Otter

Rod <rodhill@NOSPAMihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:37ffd7c6.3619702@news.ihug.co.nz...
> >The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
> >against the Pentiums.
>
> whats this!?
> 500/100 celeron.
> try again.
> all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.
>

I guess Intel hasn't updated their site yet 'cause it's still saying all
the Intel Celeron processors utilize the Intel P6 microarchitecture's
multi-transaction system bus at 66MHz

otter wrote:
> 
> Actually,
> There are Celeron 500s with 100FSB on them now.
> You can get them in a HP desktop.
> Don't know if boxed Celerons are shipped only for 66, but 100 is out there.
> 
> Cheers,
> Otter
> 
> Rod <rodhill@NOSPAMihug.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:37ffd7c6.3619702@news.ihug.co.nz...
> > >The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
> > >against the Pentiums.
> >
> > whats this!?
> > 500/100 celeron.
> > try again.
> > all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.
> >

otter wrote:
> There are Celeron 500s with 100FSB on them now.
> You can get them in a HP desktop.
> Don't know if boxed Celerons are shipped only for 66, but 100 is out
there.

Are you sure about that? The boxed C500's use a 66mhz FSB, and I couldn't
find any info at HP's site about them using a special C500 with 100mhz FSB.
And I've seen those Intel timelines, and 100mhz FSB won't be supported in
the Celeron line for a while. Perhaps you're mistaken?

Bold

the celerons all use 66mHz bus unless specially noted and such would be rare
and expensive...

I run an overclocked celey and have found it far superior to the loads of
K6s I have built.  maybe even 4 to 5 times faster than the comparable K6 MHz
chip I got rid of after back to back testing.  Locating the 100Mhz bus
celeys is impossible in my experience.  And my selection of the 66Mhz has
never been regretted.

-Fer
Deathmatch Rules, Rats and turkeyburgers are the best maps around...



otter wrote in message <5HeN3.1278$s12.79351@news.uswest.net>...
>Actually,
>There are Celeron 500s with 100FSB on them now.
>You can get them in a HP desktop.
>Don't know if boxed Celerons are shipped only for 66, but 100 is out there.
>
>Cheers,
>Otter
>
>Rod <rodhill@NOSPAMihug.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:37ffd7c6.3619702@news.ihug.co.nz...
>> >The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
>> >against the Pentiums.
>>
>> whats this!?
>> 500/100 celeron.
>> try again.
>> all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.
>>
>
>

Celerons will have 100mhz FSB first quarter 2000.  also all intel cpus will
have 256K ondie cache, but running at the bus speed (current P2/P3s have
512K, but running at half speed)



David Maynard <maynard@flash.net> wrote in message
news:38057DCF.58D5E5DF@flash.net...
> I guess Intel hasn't updated their site yet 'cause it's still saying all
> the Intel Celeron processors utilize the Intel P6 microarchitecture's
> multi-transaction system bus at 66MHz
>
> otter wrote:
> >
> > Actually,
> > There are Celeron 500s with 100FSB on them now.
> > You can get them in a HP desktop.
> > Don't know if boxed Celerons are shipped only for 66, but 100 is out
there.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Otter
> >
> > Rod <rodhill@NOSPAMihug.co.nz> wrote in message
> > news:37ffd7c6.3619702@news.ihug.co.nz...
> > > >The Celeron 400/100, 450/100 and the new 500/100 do well even
> > > >against the Pentiums.
> > >
> > > whats this!?
> > > 500/100 celeron.
> > > try again.
> > > all celerons are 66MHz FSB out of the box.
> > >