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   $290.00??? You've gotta be kidding. This is a complete rip-off! To anyone
out there considering paying this price, I urge you to reconsider. A fair
price for the system he's listed would be no more than $100.00. 

 



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rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:


>   $290.00??? You've gotta be kidding. This is a complete rip-off! To anyone
>out there considering paying this price, I urge you to reconsider. A fair
>price for the system he's listed would be no more than $100.00. 

Huh?  The retail value of his package is nearly $600.

Richard John Rauser writes:
>   $290.00??? You've gotta be kidding. This is a complete rip-off!

David Bell replies:
> Huh?  The retail value of his package is nearly $600.

The following prices are from Telegames' latest catalog.  In an
attempt to give James Joule III the best shot at having a worthwhile
deal, I have not taken into account any of the special deals they
currently offer (deals which would make the overall price of this
merchandise even lower).  Telegames doesn't sell "Cyberball",
"Shadow/Beast" and "Steel Talons" but here's the price breakdown:

Comlynx cable 9.95
A/C adapter 14.95
Car lighter adapter 24.95
Sun screen 9.95
Carrying Bag 19.95
Blue Lightning 34.95
CA. Games 39.95
Checkered Flag 34.95
Cyberball (estimated cost: 34.95)
Gauntlet III 19.95
Shadow/Beast (est. cost: 34.95)
Slime World 29.95
Steel Talons (est. cost: 34.95)
Warbirds 37.95
Xenophobe 29.95

By my pocket calculator, excluding the three estimated product, this
comes to approximately $308.  With the estimated prices + shipping I'd
guess this comes to around $430.

So, not only does that make the $600 figure way high, that makes the
original for sale offer of $290 a ripoff (since we're dealing with
100% used merchandise sight unseen, I think it's fair to shave off 50%
right off the top).  I think asking about $200 is right, not close to
$300.

In my eyes, when dealing with an actual machine (the Lynx unit), it's
worth the money to spend more and get a warranty from Atari.  I have
no opinion of the seller at all, but when faced with a decision
between buying brand new merchandise from someone I can return it to
for a little more money than used merchandise sight unseen, I'll take
the new stuff hands-down.

To squelch a lame rebuttal right off the bat, of course nobody is
making anyone buy anything here, it's a question of whether any
potential customers are informed customers or not.  With this post, I
hope to have shed some useable light (and not just saying "this is a
ripoff!" or "no it's not!" without any proof) on the matter.

jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

>Richard John Rauser writes:
>>   $290.00??? You've gotta be kidding. This is a complete rip-off!

>David Bell replies:
>> Huh?  The retail value of his package is nearly $600.


>By my pocket calculator, excluding the three estimated product, this
>comes to approximately $308.  With the estimated prices + shipping I'd
>guess this comes to around $430.

>So, not only does that make the $600 figure way high, that makes the
>original for sale offer of $290 a ripoff (since we're dealing with
>100% used merchandise sight unseen, I think it's fair to shave off 50%
>right off the top).  I think asking about $200 is right, not close to
>$300.

You forgot to add in the Lynx II itself!!  With it your total would be
over $500.  I didn't bother to look up any prices, but just multiplied
$40/game * 10 games + $100 for LynxII + $100 for accessories.  I believe
if you added up the suggested retail prices from Atari, you'd come
pretty close to $600.  Telegames has some good discounts, but they
have incredibly high shipping charges (from what I understand from
their ad, shipping all this stuff by USPS 2nd day would cost nearly $100).
UPS would be around $25, but the seller was offering to ship for free.

In any case, I was not trying to defend the $290 price, but was wondering
how anyone could come up with a value of $100 for all this stuff.  Remember,
the Lynx is supposedly brand new.  Even at half price ($50) plus $15/game (lower
than I usually see posted on the net) you're already at $200, even
ignoring the accessories.  I personally doubt he'll get much
over $200, unless he's willing to break it down.  $290 is not that
unreasonable of a starting offer, though, and I find the original post much
less offensive than Rauser's idiotic response.

Dave