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On 16 Jul 1997 02:58:27 GMT, Gary <grimgarf@angband.gt.ed.net> wrote:

>umm,  no one has answered my question...
>i guess i should follow auction policy and if no one replies in 3 days i win...
>
>How do we know that the good Quakers out there do not use well-written hard-to-
>detect bots?

Because they've been good players since day 1 of Internet Quake, and
if you can write a good 'net bot in five minutes i'll give you
Buckingham Palace for free. Hell, throw in the White House. Also, many
of the good players have played on LANs, at big events, witnessed by
thousands of people, with demos available. I hardly think they'd have
been allowed to sneak in a bot.

>
>What is the difference between my using a hard-to-detect bot and a good person
>playing? (to the viewpoint of the other players)

Quite a lot, because a good bot and a good player are good in very
different ways. Check the reaper - it's a very good bot, but it is
very obviously not a human, because no human could have an absolutely
100% perfect aim, which the reaper has at skill 3 (with non projectile
weapons - perfect aim with projectiles is impossible, but even so the
reaper is closer than most humans). A good player is good in different
ways - they know the layout of the level, they know little tricks to
perform, blind shots to use, routes to take etc.

>
>Who or what says that it is not right to use computer aids for playing Quake?
>(if I am not interested in gaining any Quake skill)

No-one and nothing - but if the majority opinion on whichever server
you happen to be on is that it is not a good thing to be doing, you
should respect that opinion.

>
>What skills are gained by playing Quake?

Quake playing skills. Also, to a small extent, hand-eye
co-ordination...and that's about it.

>
>That could not be gained doing more productive things?

Fuck all, except for the Quake playing skills, which couldn't be
gained anywhere else :)

>
>Oh, also I like going to servers and exiting as quickly as possible 
>if they have exit enabled.  It is fun for me to race to the end of the 
>stage while getting shot at by other players.

Even though it turns you into a _major_ hate object in the eyes of
other players? Saying you think Quake is stupid is no excuse. I think
American football is stupid, but then I wouldn't run onto the pitch in
the middle of the Superbowl with a big pin and pop the ball. I respect
others' opinions...do you?

>
>Oh, and there was a bug in an old FvF that would enable players to change
>levels upon a certain sequence of impulses... that was fun...
>
>and servers with pause allowed are fun
>
See above.
--
Adam Williamson
Real Mail: adam "at" scss.demon.co.uk
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