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Article #407Re: Are Some of these guys cheating?
From: krug
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:00
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Gary <grimgarf@angband.gt.ed.net> wrote: > umm, no one has answered my question... > i guess i should follow auction policy and if no one replies in 3 days i win... > How do we know that the good Quakers out there do not use well-written > hard-to-detect bots? We don't really, but from what I have heard, the best Quake players are generally not smart enough to write a high performance AI. > What is the difference between my using a hard-to-detect bot and a good > person playing? (to the viewpoint of the other players) They get good at beating the un-natural action of a bot. Then they play a human who is good as the bot, and they get ass kicked, because they learned (subconciously) the patterns inherent in any AI based system. > Who or what says that it is not right to use computer aids for playing > Quake? (if I am not interested in gaining any Quake skill) I find this to be fine, but I also think that certain bots (Stooge), was made TOO smart. When you can't miss it seems a little unfair. > What skills are gained by playing Quake? Eye hand coordination. Real world useful stuff? Damned if I know. Remember though over 50% (probably closer to 90%) of what you do does not gain you skills. Mostly you just have fun and learn useful shit (like where health boxes are). > That could not be gained doing more productive things? I really don't know. > Oh, also I like going to servers and exiting as quickly as possible > if they have exit enabled. It is fun for me to race to the end of the > stage while getting shot at by other players. There really is no challenge in this, so I gotta say this is pointless. > Oh, and there was a bug in an old FvF that would enable players to change > levels upon a certain sequence of impulses... that was fun... That ain't a question Gary. > and servers with pause allowed are fun I ban those folk, who paused on Angband. -- Jeff Krug, CS undergrad Georgia Tech | email: krug@angband.gt.ed.net Co-op Student Employee with GTRI | I am known as "Krug" Member of the Notorious Grimstari | among the Grimstari
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ba6e,45f4b9f0f51db1f8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ba6e,public X-Google-Thread: 107aee,45f4b9f0f51db1f8 X-Google-Attributes: gid107aee,public X-Google-Thread: feea7,45f4b9f0f51db1f8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfeea7,public From: krug <krug@angband.gt.ed.net> Subject: Re: Are Some of these guys cheating? Date: 1997/07/16 Message-ID: <5qhe08$3nl@smash.gatech.edu> X-Deja-AN: 257121681 References: <01bc88b8$6d90d6e0$8e89d2cd@gravity.worldchat.com> <33c1501c.9763280@news.cc.columbia.edu> <01bc8c7a$ea0f47e0$45568bce@frascaisdn4.frasca.com> <5q41tn$t14$1@noc.van.hookup.net> <01bc8d9a$f86e7600$0f02000a@acme.gatech.edu> <5q443t$ceu@smash.gatech.edu> <fCmxzkw8BAwV092yn@remove.this.cet.com> <01bc8e45$88dcf180$0f02000a@acme.gatech.edu> <33C7DCB7.2A3D@iquest.net> <f+lyzkw8BI1L092yn@remove.this.cet.com> <01bc916b$d4398980$0f02000a@acme.gatech.edu> <5qhdcj$opg@smash.gatech.edu> Organization: The Pits of Angband Newsgroups: alt.games.quake,git.talk.quake,rec.games.computer.quake.playing