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Re: Are Some of these guys cheating?

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From: krug
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:00
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Gary <grimgarf@angband.gt.ed.net> wrote:
> umm,  no one has answered my question...
> i guess i should follow auction policy and if no one replies in 3 days i win...

> How do we know that the good Quakers out there do not use well-written 
> hard-to-detect bots?

We don't really, but from what I have heard, the best Quake players are 
generally not smart enough to write a high performance AI.

> What is the difference between my using a hard-to-detect bot and a good 
> person playing? (to the viewpoint of the other players)

They get good at beating the un-natural action of a bot.  Then they play a
human who is good as the bot, and they get ass kicked, because they learned
(subconciously) the patterns inherent in any AI based system.

> Who or what says that it is not right to use computer aids for playing 
> Quake? (if I am not interested in gaining any Quake skill)

I find this to be fine, but I also think that certain bots (Stooge), was 
made TOO smart.  When you can't miss it seems a little unfair.

> What skills are gained by playing Quake?

Eye hand coordination.  Real world useful stuff?  Damned if I know.  Remember
though over 50% (probably closer to 90%) of what you do does not gain you
skills.  Mostly you just have fun and learn useful shit (like where health
boxes are).

> That could not be gained doing more productive things?

I really don't know.

> Oh, also I like going to servers and exiting as quickly as possible 
> if they have exit enabled.  It is fun for me to race to the end of the 
> stage while getting shot at by other players.

There really is no challenge in this, so I gotta say this is pointless.

> Oh, and there was a bug in an old FvF that would enable players to change
> levels upon a certain sequence of impulses... that was fun...

That ain't a question Gary.

> and servers with pause allowed are fun

I ban those folk, who paused on Angband.

-- 
Jeff Krug, CS undergrad Georgia Tech | email: krug@angband.gt.ed.net
Co-op Student Employee with GTRI     |     I am known as "Krug"
Member of the Notorious Grimstari    |     among the Grimstari
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From: krug <krug@angband.gt.ed.net>
Subject: Re: Are Some of these guys cheating?
Date: 1997/07/16
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