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Since alt.games.quake is a dying newsgroup, message crossposted to
rec.games.computer.quake.playing.  git.talk.quake also added due to the
presense of Gary, the stoogebot king.


Joseph S. Lazaro wrote:
> 
> Your Mom wrote:
> 
> > I have to agree with you.  I believe that their are cheaters in Quake.
> >
> > I have run into the same senarios that you run into, many times.  I
> > can't understand it myself.
> 
>    That's a typical statement usually from people who are amazed with a
> player's skills and refuses to believe that the person is THAT good.
> Well there ARE people that good, sometimes partly because of a low ping,
> and I'm sure they don't like being called cheaters so just keep your
> comments to yourself and maybe if you watch them you can learn
> something.


yet, another dufus who jumps into a discussion without ever considering
what "scenarios" they were talking about.  So let me educate your dumb
ass.

The following is quoted from Steve Yardley dated July 4th,

> I watch as nothing hurts
> them.  I take my shots while he gets blown by several others, after he
> kills three others, he turns on me and blows me away.  It doesn't matter if
> I have rockets or grenades, I can't seem to kill these mega Quakers.  If
> fact, just today I shot 3 rockets into one of these guys, dead hits, and he
> still turned around and killed me with ONE SHOT.  
> Armour?  Nope, I doubt it...  I had 150 Armour and over 100 hit points. 
> One shot and I was gone... He wasn't quad and there wasn't any super
> armours that I knew of on the level.


We can pretend that the person above was unaware of lag.  In that case,
we can say that lag made it look like the person fired only one shot. 
The ability to withstand at least three rockets and the ability to fire
multiple shots and made it look like one shot has absolutely *NOTHING*
to do with skill.  Without Quad or any special powerups, it would take
three direct hits from an RL to frag a player with 150 (yellow) armor
and exactly 100 health.  If you are being hit three times in a row with
rockets, then you can't be that skilled in the first place especially if
you are being hit by someone who is so lagged that three shots look like
one.

-- 
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legion
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