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Re: Are Some of these guys cheating?

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From: Ron Rau
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:00
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I have to agree that lag is the biggest issue with a lot of these people. 
I play on a P90 in vidmode 1 during coffee breaks at work we are on a T1
line and there are still times that lag is a killer.  Some days I can
unload a couple of  rockets at a guy with haste, but by the time the first
rocket should have hit him he (or she - being politically correct) is past
me and taking the shot at me that kills me.  Then there are other times it
seems I can do no wrong at a server where there are some really good
players.  Sometimes I can't get anything going against these guys (often it
is due to lag). I feel it often depends on where and when you enter a level
that will allow you to compete against these guys even with a slower
machine.

Just my $0.02 (0.015 US$ being Canadian).

Ciao for now
Ron

Namae <tt323@columbia.edu> wrote in article
<33c1501c.9763280@news.cc.columbia.edu>...
> On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:40:28 -0400, "Roscoe A. Sincero"
> <legion@keg.zymurgy.org> wrote:
> 
> >> I watch as nothing hurts
> >> them.  I take my shots while he gets blown by several others, after he
> >> kills three others, he turns on me and blows me away.  It doesn't
matter if
> >> I have rockets or grenades, I can't seem to kill these mega Quakers. 
If
> >> fact, just today I shot 3 rockets into one of these guys, dead hits,
and he
> >> still turned around and killed me with ONE SHOT.  
> >> Armour?  Nope, I doubt it...  I had 150 Armour and over 100 hit
points. 
> >> One shot and I was gone... He wasn't quad and there wasn't any super
> >> armours that I knew of on the level.
> >
> >
> >We can pretend that the person above was unaware of lag.  In that case,
> >we can say that lag made it look like the person fired only one shot. 
> >The ability to withstand at least three rockets and the ability to fire
> >multiple shots and made it look like one shot has absolutely *NOTHING*
> >to do with skill.  Without Quad or any special powerups, it would take
> >three direct hits from an RL to frag a player with 150 (yellow) armor
> >and exactly 100 health.  If you are being hit three times in a row with
> >rockets, then you can't be that skilled in the first place especially if
> >you are being hit by someone who is so lagged that three shots look like
> >one.
> 
> Hmm, I'm a LPB.  I can recall several occasions where people told me,
> "What!?  I shot you with two direct Quad rockets!"  My reply: "uh...
> no you didn't...they both missed."
> 
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From: "Ron Rau" <Rau@arc.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Are Some of these guys cheating?
Date: 1997/07/09
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