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8 total messages Started by Howler Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:00
Alt + Tab with Quake
#202
Author: Howler
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:00
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I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when trying to alt + tab from
q95 back to the desktop.

I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate HDD,
ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card with 32 meg RAM, on
a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)

My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an 8.4 seagate,
and I am the only one having any problems with this, I'm also getting
frequent errors like windows explorer page faults and other things. This is
despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.

Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#203
Author: Cyborg
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:00
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Don't alt+tab.
Especially not from a DOS app, which is what q95 is.
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Howler <icrozier@bigpond.net.au> wrote in article
<wABO4.7403$v85.45351@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when trying to alt + tab
from
> q95 back to the desktop.
> 
> I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate HDD,
> ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card with 32 meg RAM,
on
> a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)
> 
> My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an 8.4 seagate,
> and I am the only one having any problems with this, I'm also getting
> frequent errors like windows explorer page faults and other things. This
is
> despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
> 
> 
> 
> 
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#197
Author: Shaggy
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:00
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:37:32 GMT, "Howler" <icrozier@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

>I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when trying to alt + tab from
>q95 back to the desktop.
>
>I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate HDD,
>ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card with 32 meg RAM, on
>a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)
>
>My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an 8.4 seagate,
>and I am the only one having any problems with this, I'm also getting
>frequent errors like windows explorer page faults and other things. This is
>despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.
>
>Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
>
>

don't use dos quake get winquake or glquake
with a tnt2 you should be running glquake anyhow

winquake and glquake are both win32 programs
and both don't need any external batch files like q95 to load network
drivers.

also try updating your tnt2 drivers www.nvidia.com
for the latest detonator reference drivers.

i seem to remember some problems with the via chipset
try the nivdia newsgroup you'll find for info there re the via chipset
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#198
Author: Shaggy
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:00
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:37:32 GMT, "Howler" <icrozier@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

>I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when trying to alt + tab from
>q95 back to the desktop.
>
>I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate HDD,
>ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card with 32 meg RAM, on
>a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)
>
>My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an 8.4 seagate,
>and I am the only one having any problems with this, I'm also getting
>frequent errors like windows explorer page faults and other things. This is
>despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.
>
>Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
>
>

btw glquake is the opengl 3d version of quake
and if you playing quake over the net get gamespy www.gamespy.com
and quakeworld (includes both software and glquakeworld).

don't let quakeworld of glquake install the opengl mini driver
opengl32.dll it's for 3dfx based cards only if you do intsall the mini
driver glquake /glquakeworld won't run it will ask for glide .
 just rename or delete opengl32.dll it from your quake directory.
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#199
Author: Howler
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:00
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I should have mentioned it has the same problem on trying to exit the game
normally....sound keeps going and screen goes blank...lockup needing
complete reboot.

On top of this, the system is giving explorer errors (invalid memory access,
general protection errors, page faults)

The weird thing is the other system is pretty much flawless even *with* the
alt-tab and the setup (aside from the HDD) is the same

"Cyborg" <cyborg_jim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Don't alt+tab.
> Especially not from a DOS app, which is what q95 is.
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> Howler <icrozier@bigpond.net.au> wrote in article
> <wABO4.7403$v85.45351@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when trying to alt + tab
> from
> > q95 back to the desktop.
> >
> > I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate HDD,
> > ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card with 32 meg RAM,
> on
> > a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)
> >
> > My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an 8.4
seagate,
> > and I am the only one having any problems with this, I'm also getting
> > frequent errors like windows explorer page faults and other things. This
> is
> > despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#204
Author: Verdi Grasiasis
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:00
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I too enjoy the many fruits of the loves.

Loves to you,

Verdi
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#200
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:00
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Howler <icrozier@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:wABO4.7403$v85.45351@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when
> trying to alt + tab from q95 back to the desktop.

You're actually having more problems than just that.

> I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate
> HDD, ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card
> with 32 meg RAM, on a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)

> My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an
> 8.4 seagate, and I am the only one having any problems with this,
> I'm also getting frequent errors like windows explorer page faults
> and other things. This is despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.

This bit is crucial. You've basically got some hardware problem that is
producing those frequent errors and you're going to have to resolve that.

> Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?

Its always a hardware problem if you get that with a clean install of Win98.

Unfortunately for you it isnt that easy to work out where the hardware
problem is. The first thing to do is remove any overclocking if you are
doing that and see if the problem goes away when run within specs. If
they do go away, you're just overclocking too much. Even if that works fine
on the other PC, yours is just not capable of being overclocked as much.

If its not overclocked and you have ensured that the fans are reasonably
clean, rotating properly and not clogged with fur, you'll just have to try
swapping the hardware between the two PCs until you find which bit of
 the hardware has a problem. Not hard when most of it is identical.
Try with the stuff thats easy to swap first, like the video card etc.
Re: Alt + Tab with Quake
#201
Author: Alan
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:00
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I agree it is hardware related and would; even hazard a guess the vid card
is AGP and has over 8 meg on bord. Have had exactly the same problems when I
upgraded my video card to agp. tried voodoo3 16meg and Diamond stealth
extreme 32meg, both agp. Both caused probs. Found out it was a Problem with
AGP cards with over 8meg on bord and Via chip sets. I changed
otherboards( Went to Gigabyte Bx ) and all was well. I know that diamond
have a bios upgrade for their Agp cards to help with VIA chipset
incompatibility.
Hope this helps
Alan
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Howler <icrozier@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:wABO4.7403$v85.45351@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > I'm having a problem with win98SE locking up when
> > trying to alt + tab from q95 back to the desktop.
>
> You're actually having more problems than just that.
>
> > I'm using a celeron 433 with 64mb RAM, 50 x CD-ROM, 17gig seagate
> > HDD, ES1938 (Solo-1) soundcard, Riva TNT2 m64 AGP video card
> > with 32 meg RAM, on a Jetway mainboard (Via Chipset)
>
> > My mate and I both have the same system except his HDD is an
> > 8.4 seagate, and I am the only one having any problems with this,
> > I'm also getting frequent errors like windows explorer page faults
> > and other things. This is despite SEVERAL clean installs of 98.
>
> This bit is crucial. You've basically got some hardware problem that is
> producing those frequent errors and you're going to have to resolve that.
>
> > Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
>
> Its always a hardware problem if you get that with a clean install of
Win98.
>
> Unfortunately for you it isnt that easy to work out where the hardware
> problem is. The first thing to do is remove any overclocking if you are
> doing that and see if the problem goes away when run within specs. If
> they do go away, you're just overclocking too much. Even if that works
fine
> on the other PC, yours is just not capable of being overclocked as much.
>
> If its not overclocked and you have ensured that the fans are reasonably
> clean, rotating properly and not clogged with fur, you'll just have to try
> swapping the hardware between the two PCs until you find which bit of
>  the hardware has a problem. Not hard when most of it is identical.
> Try with the stuff thats easy to swap first, like the video card etc.
>
>
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