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PING: Kanga - Islam 'recognizes homosexuality'
#35
Author: Anne Onime
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:08
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"Kangaroo Court Australia" <nwn.webmaster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:53c1030b-cb05-462f-ae2b-cb23579cde66@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>>  The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
> 
Of course there are Mislims who are homosexuals:

http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-heaven/

Arabic poofs wear burqa?

Why male suicideexploders are prommissed by Koran young boys in Islamic paradise?

http://thelinc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/gayislam.jpg

Is this Muslim flag on your mosque?

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/queermuslims/

We are the Gay and Lesbian Arabic Society (GLAS), an international organization established in 1988 in the USA with worldwide chapters.  We serve as a networking organization for Gays and Lesbians of Arab descent or those living in Arab countries. We aim to promote positive images of Gays and Lesbians in Arab communities worldwide, in addition to combating negative portrayals of Arabs within the Gay and Lesbian community.

http://www.glas.org/

Welcome to the web site of the Washington DC chapter of the Gay & Lesbian Arab Society (GLAS).

http://www.glas.org/glasdc.html

�Homosexuals aren�t any less Muslim � we all sin � but they�re still Muslim and they�re still welcome,� she says.

Sara believes that, in time, homosexuality will become as acceptable within in Islam as it is in most Western cultures: �People did it with black rights, and they did it with women�s rights, and slowly more and more people are beginning to feel more comfortable with themselves.�

Imaan, the UK arm of American organisation al-Fatiha, have taken part in the Gay Pride celebrations, and to see them holding their banners was �the biggest comfort� to Sara when she was coming out: �They made me realise that I wasn�t alone, and that there were others like me, and some were probably in worse situations too.�

�For all the ills this country has, I�m so thankful to be born here, where my rights as a woman, as an ethnic minority, and as a lesbian are respected. I can walk down the street and people may bat an eyelid but I have rights to protect me � it�s
unfortunate that not all people are that lucky,� she says.

Now Sara hopes that it is not long before her religion accepts her too.

*Names have been changed to protect identities.

http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-heaven/

In preparation for Islamic Awareness Week (IAW) last February, Sara began work on a presentation entitled �Taboos in Islam�, including sex, drugs, alcohol and homosexuality. �It was during the EastEnders� storyline with Syed, and it was more in the media� and I felt that we needed to talk about it,� Sara says.
However, the Islamic Society(IS) committee voted that Sara should remove the section on homosexuality and re-submit a completed version to discuss again, as it was felt that IAW wasn�t the right time to address the topic. Amjad Altadmri, president of the University�s Islamic Society, said: �Islamic Awareness Week is usually a time for scholars and knowledgeable speakers to introduce Islam to others. Our contribution is usually a backup plan.

�When we managed to fill the evenings, the majority of the committee chose to go with this.�

Sara, who was the vice-president and general secretary of the society at the time, became aware of her sexuality during her school years, but fought a long battle with herself and her religion before accepting that it was a part of her.

�It is one of the things that I�ve found the hardest to come to terms with. I�m now completely comfortable with being Muslim and a lesbian, but for a long time I was trying to come to terms with the fact that I was gay,� she recalls.

Sara believed that her homosexuality meant that she couldn�t be Muslim, and tried to denounce her faith: �But then I thought, �hang on, this is a religion that I believe in, and this is the way of life I�ve chosen for myself. So why can�t I put the two together because they are both fundamental parts of me?�� she explains.

Islam acknowledges that people can be born gay, but it is believed that it is a test from God, and it is the individual�s choice as to whether they act upon it or not. Homosexuality is spoken of in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Qur�an.

�It�s the idea of �transgressing beyond all bounds�, through excessive drinking, having sex outside of marriage, gambling and homosexuality,� Sara explains.

Those for homosexuality argue that the Qur�an doesn�t specifically pinpoint homosexuality, so it can�t be more of a sin than the others. However, for most Muslims, it is strictly against Islam.
Re: Kanga - Islam 'recognizes homosexuality'
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Author: Doug
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:02
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"Anne Onime" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt> wrote in message 
news:feda9872f0b69a4c737b2e95a4e50f06@rip.ax.lt...
> "Kangaroo Court Australia" <nwn.webmaster@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:53c1030b-cb05-462f-ae2b-cb23579cde66@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>>>  The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
>>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>>
> Of course there are Mislims who are homosexuals:
>
> http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-heaven/
>
> Arabic poofs wear burqa?
>
> Why male suicideexploders are prommissed by Koran young boys in Islamic 
> paradise?
>
> http://thelinc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/gayislam.jpg
>
> Is this Muslim flag on your mosque?
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/queermuslims/
>
> We are the Gay and Lesbian Arabic Society (GLAS), an international 
> organization established in 1988 in the USA with worldwide chapters.  We 
> serve as a networking organization for Gays and Lesbians of Arab descent 
> or those living in Arab countries. We aim to promote positive images of 
> Gays and Lesbians in Arab communities worldwide, in addition to combating 
> negative portrayals of Arabs within the Gay and Lesbian community.
>
> http://www.glas.org/
>
> Welcome to the web site of the Washington DC chapter of the Gay & Lesbian 
> Arab Society (GLAS).
>
> http://www.glas.org/glasdc.html
>
> "Homosexuals aren't any less Muslim - we all sin - but they're still 
> Muslim and they're still welcome," she says.
>
> Sara believes that, in time, homosexuality will become as acceptable 
> within in Islam as it is in most Western cultures: "People did it with 
> black rights, and they did it with women's rights, and slowly more and 
> more people are beginning to feel more comfortable with themselves."
>
> Imaan, the UK arm of American organisation al-Fatiha, have taken part in 
> the Gay Pride celebrations, and to see them holding their banners was "the 
> biggest comfort" to Sara when she was coming out: "They made me realise 
> that I wasn't alone, and that there were others like me, and some were 
> probably in worse situations too."
>
> "For all the ills this country has, I'm so thankful to be born here, where 
> my rights as a woman, as an ethnic minority, and as a lesbian are 
> respected. I can walk down the street and people may bat an eyelid but I 
> have rights to protect me - it's
> unfortunate that not all people are that lucky," she says.
>
> Now Sara hopes that it is not long before her religion accepts her too.
>
> *Names have been changed to protect identities.
>
> http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-heaven/
>
> In preparation for Islamic Awareness Week (IAW) last February, Sara began 
> work on a presentation entitled "Taboos in Islam", including sex, drugs, 
> alcohol and homosexuality. "It was during the EastEnders' storyline with 
> Syed, and it was more in the media. and I felt that we needed to talk 
> about it," Sara says.
> However, the Islamic Society(IS) committee voted that Sara should remove 
> the section on homosexuality and re-submit a completed version to discuss 
> again, as it was felt that IAW wasn't the right time to address the topic. 
> Amjad Altadmri, president of the University's Islamic Society, said: 
> "Islamic Awareness Week is usually a time for scholars and knowledgeable 
> speakers to introduce Islam to others. Our contribution is usually a 
> backup plan.
>
> "When we managed to fill the evenings, the majority of the committee chose 
> to go with this."
>
> Sara, who was the vice-president and general secretary of the society at 
> the time, became aware of her sexuality during her school years, but 
> fought a long battle with herself and her religion before accepting that 
> it was a part of her.
>
> "It is one of the things that I've found the hardest to come to terms 
> with. I'm now completely comfortable with being Muslim and a lesbian, but 
> for a long time I was trying to come to terms with the fact that I was 
> gay," she recalls.
>
> Sara believed that her homosexuality meant that she couldn't be Muslim, 
> and tried to denounce her faith: "But then I thought, 'hang on, this is a 
> religion that I believe in, and this is the way of life I've chosen for 
> myself. So why can't I put the two together because they are both 
> fundamental parts of me?'" she explains.
>
> Islam acknowledges that people can be born gay, but it is believed that it 
> is a test from God, and it is the individual's choice as to whether they 
> act upon it or not. Homosexuality is spoken of in the story of Sodom and 
> Gomorrah in the Qur'an.
>
> "It's the idea of 'transgressing beyond all bounds', through excessive 
> drinking, having sex outside of marriage, gambling and homosexuality," 
> Sara explains.
>
> Those for homosexuality argue that the Qur'an doesn't specifically 
> pinpoint homosexuality, so it can't be more of a sin than the others. 
> However, for most Muslims, it is strictly against Islam.
>

Obviously they live in abject fear otherwise why is the notation: "*Names 
have been changed to protect identities." present? 
Re: Kanga - Islam 'recognizes homosexuality'
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Author: CraigZ
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:57
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On Sep 25, 5:02 am, "Doug" <andxor...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> "Anne Onime" <anonym...@rip.ax.lt> wrote in message
>
> news:feda9872f0b69a4c737b2e95a4e50f06@rip.ax.lt...
>
>
>
> > "Kangaroo Court Australia" <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:53c1030b-cb05-462f-ae2b-cb23579cde66@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> >>>  The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
> >>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>
> > Of course there are Mislims who are homosexuals:
>
> >http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-...
>
> > Arabic poofs wear burqa?
>
> > Why male suicideexploders are prommissed by Koran young boys in Islamic
> > paradise?
>
> >http://thelinc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/gayislam.jpg
>
> > Is this Muslim flag on your mosque?
>
> >http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/queermuslims/
>
> > We are the Gay and Lesbian Arabic Society (GLAS), an international
> > organization established in 1988 in the USA with worldwide chapters.  We
> > serve as a networking organization for Gays and Lesbians of Arab descent
> > or those living in Arab countries. We aim to promote positive images of
> > Gays and Lesbians in Arab communities worldwide, in addition to combating
> > negative portrayals of Arabs within the Gay and Lesbian community.
>
> >http://www.glas.org/
>
> > Welcome to the web site of the Washington DC chapter of the Gay & Lesbian
> > Arab Society (GLAS).
>
> >http://www.glas.org/glasdc.html
>
> > "Homosexuals aren't any less Muslim - we all sin - but they're still
> > Muslim and they're still welcome," she says.
>
> > Sara believes that, in time, homosexuality will become as acceptable
> > within in Islam as it is in most Western cultures: "People did it with
> > black rights, and they did it with women's rights, and slowly more and
> > more people are beginning to feel more comfortable with themselves."
>
> > Imaan, the UK arm of American organisation al-Fatiha, have taken part in
> > the Gay Pride celebrations, and to see them holding their banners was "the
> > biggest comfort" to Sara when she was coming out: "They made me realise
> > that I wasn't alone, and that there were others like me, and some were
> > probably in worse situations too."
>
> > "For all the ills this country has, I'm so thankful to be born here, where
> > my rights as a woman, as an ethnic minority, and as a lesbian are
> > respected. I can walk down the street and people may bat an eyelid but I
> > have rights to protect me - it's
> > unfortunate that not all people are that lucky," she says.
>
> > Now Sara hopes that it is not long before her religion accepts her too.
>
> > *Names have been changed to protect identities.
>
> >http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/09/homosexuality-and-islam-a-match-made-in-...
>
> > In preparation for Islamic Awareness Week (IAW) last February, Sara began
> > work on a presentation entitled "Taboos in Islam", including sex, drugs,
> > alcohol and homosexuality. "It was during the EastEnders' storyline with
> > Syed, and it was more in the media. and I felt that we needed to talk
> > about it," Sara says.
> > However, the Islamic Society(IS) committee voted that Sara should remove
> > the section on homosexuality and re-submit a completed version to discuss
> > again, as it was felt that IAW wasn't the right time to address the topic.
> > Amjad Altadmri, president of the University's Islamic Society, said:
> > "Islamic Awareness Week is usually a time for scholars and knowledgeable
> > speakers to introduce Islam to others. Our contribution is usually a
> > backup plan.
>
> > "When we managed to fill the evenings, the majority of the committee chose
> > to go with this."
>
> > Sara, who was the vice-president and general secretary of the society at
> > the time, became aware of her sexuality during her school years, but
> > fought a long battle with herself and her religion before accepting that
> > it was a part of her.
>
> > "It is one of the things that I've found the hardest to come to terms
> > with. I'm now completely comfortable with being Muslim and a lesbian, but
> > for a long time I was trying to come to terms with the fact that I was
> > gay," she recalls.
>
> > Sara believed that her homosexuality meant that she couldn't be Muslim,
> > and tried to denounce her faith: "But then I thought, 'hang on, this is a
> > religion that I believe in, and this is the way of life I've chosen for
> > myself. So why can't I put the two together because they are both
> > fundamental parts of me?'" she explains.
>
> > Islam acknowledges that people can be born gay, but it is believed that it
> > is a test from God, and it is the individual's choice as to whether they
> > act upon it or not. Homosexuality is spoken of in the story of Sodom and
> > Gomorrah in the Qur'an.
>
> > "It's the idea of 'transgressing beyond all bounds', through excessive
> > drinking, having sex outside of marriage, gambling and homosexuality,"
> > Sara explains.
>
> > Those for homosexuality argue that the Qur'an doesn't specifically
> > pinpoint homosexuality, so it can't be more of a sin than the others.
> > However, for most Muslims, it is strictly against Islam.
>
> Obviously they live in abject fear otherwise why is the notation: "*Names
> have been changed to protect identities." present?

Maybe they're just ashamed of being perverts?
Re: Kanga - Islam 'recognizes homosexuality'
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Author: Jude Alexander
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:57
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"CraigZ" <craig.z.thompson@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:7d8ba01a-e1bf-4a5b-b85c-

Hey, I would suggest you drop the "ig" and just be CraZ. :)  Have a nice 
bigoted life. 
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