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In article <DLB.92Dec11125522@fanny.wash.inmet.com>, dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com
 (David Barton) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.170657.29938@nrc.com> Edison Carter <ec@nrc.com>
>writes:
>
>
>   Re: Hypnosis Levels
>
>   The level scheme that I was taught is indeed dealing with brain
>   frequency....The levels that are noted as:
>
>   Alpha.....State we are in now.....
>
>   Beta....  Light hypnosis state....such as those states where you
>   are staring at the TV & blocking everything else out.
>
>   Theta.....Deep hypnothic state.
>
>   Delta.... Comatose type state.....very little is said to be known
>   about this state.
>
>With respect, I think that the identity between various EEG
>frequencies and the depth of hypnotic trance is a red herring.
>
>Frequent research has shown no particular correlation between trance
>phenomena and EEG frequency.  A person in deep trance may, upon
>suggestion, engage in a complex visualization exercise or other task.
>When this happens, the EEG shows patterns characteristic of intense
>mentation when in the normal state.  The trance depth is not affected.
>
>EEG readings tend to show relaxed or active mental states (for
>example, readings taken when asleep but during REM dreaming are
>incredibly active).  Identifying them with various trance indicators
>is probably more misleading then helpful.
>
>					Dave Barton
>					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com

Don't you all think (with due respect for the menatl anguish that may cause
some of the "flame" experts reading) that the lack of correlation between
trance phenomena and EEG's and any number of the other comments that have been
posted here {when we weren't talking about NLP} point strongly in the direction
that there is a part of our psyche (soul, most basic uniquness, & 50 other
terms for that same essential "us-ness") that is both seperable from the body
and not observable, at least with our current crude instruments?  Many people's
out of body experiences would seem to point in this direction.  Such a separate
self would possibly account also for some of the anamolies discussed herein.
Comments??  observations that tend to support or detract??  Anybody in hypnosis
had anything to say about this?