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Strange call from 'Commonwealth Communication Specialists'

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From: David Richards
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:00
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(Note followup-To:)

I responded (on my own time&hardware) by e-mail, to this crosspost entitled
'Ten dollar CASH rebate on all Internet Dialup Accounts', cc'd to postmasters
and owners of the related hosts. My message stated that 'chi.internet'
does not tolerate commercial ads, spammed or individual, and thus asked
that this message be canceled.

Standard stuff... no threats, no swearing, no claiming any authority or
standing with any company, newsgroup, government, or other 'power trip'.


Shortly afterwards (midnight) my ISP took a message for me from 'Matt Roth',
stating that due to my e-mail their access was severely curtailed,
and that they (Commonwealth Communication) and their provider wish to
speak to me as soon as possible (huh?).

Ripco was given the impression that I had stated that I was the 'moderator'
of chi.internet or had some power over posts to the group or usenet in general.

I had no intention of giving such an impression.


The chi.* charter (found at http://www.enteract.com/chi_charter.html)
specifically states:

	It should be pointed out that none of the chi newsgroups sanction
	postings of a commerical nature. This means that if the subject
	you're posting on is an offer for products or services from which
	you derive (or attempt to derive) a livelyhood from then it's
	prohibited in the chi newsgroups.

	There is some latitude in the case you are responding to a
	specific request for a product or service as long as the
	posting is to the point.  (Yes, we know that chi.jobs has largely
	become the headhunters playground.) 

	If you see a posting you belive to be commerical in nature,
	do not post a followup article to it. The proper response is to
	email your comments to the offending poster. 

	We highly recommend doing so! 
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I normally wouldn't have posted a followup article to it, but Ripco does
not like getting phone calls complaining about e-mail I have sent
(not that calls about _me_ are common or anything :-), and I don't like
getting messages in the middle of the night saying that somebody I
complained about is now complaining about _me_.


FYI, the official charter for chi.internet is as follows:

chi.internet
	For the purpose of providing a platform for all users to
	discuss the pros and cons of their ISP services. The function of
	this newsgroup serving in similiar capacity to chi.eats and is
	meant to be totally non-commercial.
	(Created 06/16/95 by Charles Cook) 
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From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards)
Subject: Strange call from 'Commonwealth Communication Specialists'
Date: 1997/08/04
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