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In article <32765332.1E45@pacbell.net>, Black Lodge Engineering writes:

> Matthew Dillon wrote:
> > 
> >     PacBell is basically just being greedy little asses.  They know damn
> >     well that what people want is to simply be 'connected'.    Those people
> >     are not necessarily *using* the bandwidth all that time, but PacBell
> 
> Then those people should turn off their watchdog timers that ping just
> to keep
> connections up.

People use watchdog timers becuase they need to stay connected, not
becuase they need the bandwidth.  Ever try to establish a connection to a
dial up connected machine that isn't dialed up?  It doesn't work.

> 
> >     refuses to provide any kind of out-of-band packet service via ISDN that
> >     would lead to, easily, a 10x savings in bandwidth, and could be sold
> >     at the same price current unmetered residential service is sold at or
> >     cheaper.
> 
> You're talking about 0B+D? How many Internet users would go for 16kbps,
> 9.6kbps
> of which is useful for user data? 0B+D is for another market entirely.

By itself, yes.  But, when combined with demand dial on the B channels it
becomes much more usefull.

Given the saturation level of the backbones, 16kbps is fine providing that
B channels could be brought up as needed.  If Pac Bell really wants to
reduce the number of people keeping B channels nailed up they will offer:

1) Low or Zero call setup charge.  No economic incentive to make timeouts long.

2) 0B+D.  The B channels can be brough up as needed.  Only the packet
   service need be alive to receive connections.

3) No flat rate on the B channels.  Yeah, this is unpopular.  But the idea
   is to keep users off the B channels.

4) Drop the surchange for ISDN.  (To get internet users off of flat rate
   POTS service)


Users get the illusion of a full time connection.  Pac Bell gets people
off of flat rate POTS and away from nailed up connections.

Of course, Pac Bell isn't going do this because they're not really
intestested in solving the problem.   They just want to maximize their
monopoly profits for as long as they have them.

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