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Re: newsgroup counts, ELN vs deja.com

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From: bielling
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:00
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In <poakbs856k2u4ssv2k0doposq47omsfif5@4ax.com>, on 02/28/00 
   at 08:11 PM, SUR <marisol@mindspring.com> said:

>Interesting theory, one based in fact?  Don't think so, their networks
>haven't merged, so the merger doesn't have a thing to do with what you're
>seeing.  Most likely a coincidental change your phone company made, or
>perhaps you need to try to update firmware and/or drivers for your modem. 
>Perhaps nobody changed anything, and something on the phone lines have
>gone screwy.

Well, I did think it was an odd coincidence.  I now have evidence to show
that it was a transient condition.  However, a tech support person
introduced me to 'traceroute' (in Linux; in OS/2 it's 'tracerte') and I
found something interesting.  I had been pinging 127.0.0.1 to check the
timing on my OS and TCP/IP stack.  I was getting about 200ms returns so I
upgraded my stack -- to no greater avail.

So I did a traceroute and found that 127.0.0.1 wasn't truly local!  My
shell accounts return 0.1/0.1/0.2 and 0.1/0.2/0.6 when I ping them and the
traceroute there is very local (of course).  What I don't understand is
why my pings go all the way to the ISP and back.  I thought local was
*local* as in *not remote.*  ;-)  I have no real data to back this up but
I seem to recall that when I was at another ISP my local was within my
box, not within the local network.

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From: bielling@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: newsgroup counts, ELN vs deja.com
Date: 2000/02/28
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