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Carlos Arruda wrote:
> with my own domain how far would i need my ISP?
> I know i�ll always need my ISP for the internet connection, but other then
> that will i still need him?
> Best Regards
> Carlos Arruda

a lot of isp's bounce mail coming from dynamic ip's like you get from your
isp - this is due to the ammount of spam coming from dialup & bradband
lines...

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"Alex Threlfall" <alex@nospam.cyberprog.net> wrote in message
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> Carlos Arruda wrote:

> > with my own domain how far would i need my ISP?
> > I know i�ll always need my ISP for the internet connection, but other
then
> > that will i still need him?

Need him? I presume you mean the ISP.

Yes - you need an ISP to make a connection to the internet.
If you're running your own mailserver, or using the one provided by whoever
hosts your domain name, then you need not use the email services of your
ISP. To do this just remove the account of your ISP from your email client.

I notice you're using Freeserve. Now, they're naughty and hijack all port 25
(outgoing mail) traffic!

Some of my sites are hosted by XCalibre Communications (www.xcalibre.co.uk)
who kindly opened up another port, so Freeserve didn't capture all emails.
Nice! Other hosts might do this.

So unless you get a host that will open up another port, you're going to
have all email SENT by Freeserve, regardless.

> a lot of isp's bounce mail coming from dynamic ip's like you get from your
> isp - this is due to the ammount of spam coming from dialup & bradband
> lines...

Yup, and some even bounce the static IPs too. I have a block of static IPs
for home use, and the only way to get email accepted by some servers, was to
have rDNS set up.

I suggest you make sure you're using...
1. a static IP and
2. an IP with rDNS
if you're going to want to use anyone for your mail other than your ISP ,
and your domain name host.

You might find 'lite' services from Eclipse (join at www.triffik.com/adsl)
what you need, as they don't charge you for using an email server that
you're not using, you have no access to one on the lite service.

I'm pretty sure Freeserve will not give you a static IP, however, and this
would be a major help if you ARE going to run a mailserver

Hope that answers your question, you were a little vague.

Alex Threlfall <alex@nospam.cyberprog.net> wrote:
[...]
> a lot of isp's bounce mail coming from dynamic ip's like you get from your
> isp - this is due to the ammount of spam coming from dialup & bradband
> lines...

This is cross-posted to alt.internet.providers.uk.aaisp. Andrews and Arnold
provide static IP addressing to all customers, and so a mailserver would not
get blacklisted unless it really was a source of spam (typically because
it's misconfigured as an open relay and a spammer found it.)

I have *two* SMTP servers on my AAISP-provided ADSL network. Neither have
had any problems sending mail.

Hello!!!
Cross-posted means this post shouldn�t be here on this newsgroup, is this
correct??
If so, i apologise for that.

Here�s the thing...
I have the following...
Windows XP as my OS
602Pro Lan Suite 2002 as my e-mail server (Mail, http, Fax and FTP server)
Freeserve Brodband as my ISP
Dynamic IP not static

The reason for my question was cause the other day i couldn�t send e-mail
and i gotta the following e-mail from my suport (602Pro Lan Suit):

        It sounds like your mail server is not resolving domain names. This
is
        likely caused by a DNS error with your ISP, you should contact them
for
        assistance.

So my question once again is, by using my own mail server, wich i am at the
moment, when sending messeges do they go throuht freeserve or not?
Does freeserve filter them?
Or do they go straigh to the the persons ISP?
Best Regards
Carlos Arruda

P.S.: I�ll have some pics im my web site real soon so if anyone whants to
take a look they can.





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> Alex Threlfall <alex@nospam.cyberprog.net> wrote:
> [...]
> > a lot of isp's bounce mail coming from dynamic ip's like you get from
your
> > isp - this is due to the ammount of spam coming from dialup & bradband
> > lines...
>
> This is cross-posted to alt.internet.providers.uk.aaisp. Andrews and
Arnold
> provide static IP addressing to all customers, and so a mailserver would
not
> get blacklisted unless it really was a source of spam (typically because
> it's misconfigured as an open relay and a spammer found it.)
>
> I have *two* SMTP servers on my AAISP-provided ADSL network. Neither have
> had any problems sending mail.
>

Carlos Arruda <carlos-arruda@carlos-arruda.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello!!!
> Cross-posted means this post shouldn�t be here on this newsgroup, is this
> correct??
> If so, i apologise for that.

Cross-posted merely means that it's posted to more than one group. Much
stuff that is heavily cross-posted is usually off-topic though.

> Here�s the thing...
> I have the following...
> Windows XP as my OS
> 602Pro Lan Suite 2002 as my e-mail server (Mail, http, Fax and FTP server)
> Freeserve Brodband as my ISP
> Dynamic IP not static

I would never use Windows for a mailserver, so I can't really comment on the
configuration of that.

> The reason for my question was cause the other day i couldn�t send e-mail
> and i gotta the following e-mail from my suport (602Pro Lan Suit):
>   It sounds like your mail server is not resolving domain names. This is
>   likely caused by a DNS error with your ISP, you should contact them for
>   assistance.

> So my question once again is, by using my own mail server, wich i am at the
> moment, when sending messeges do they go throuht freeserve or not?
> Does freeserve filter them?
> Or do they go straigh to the the persons ISP?

Freeserve operate a transparent proxy on port 25, so all outbound mail goes
via Freeserve's server. It's normally a good idea to configure your software
to use the proxy ("mail.freeserve.com") directly in this case.