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Article #4553

Re: ISPs Who Reject Leonard (Chip) Rosenthal's UDPs

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From: Star Traveler
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 00:00
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Replying to this post could get you UDP-ed (UseNet Death Penalty). There is a
censor in the austin.internet newsgroup who issued a UDP, based upon content
which consisted of discussing, showing and arguing persuasively that an ISP,
*Texas.Net*, is scamming their customers and booting people off their system
if the people complain. If you support free speech and "consumerism" to warn
others about fraudulent practices, file your protest with austin.internet
newsgroup and support the local users. It's your free speech that is at risk.

See The Aldebaran Group, Ltd. -- dedicated to free speech and consumerism,
and several other current issues, Internet, political and otherwise.
                   -->>> <http://www.aldeberan.org> <<<--
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In article <3579445D.6DD0@swbell.net>, tracey12@swbell.net wrote:

> Stephen Boursy wrote:
> 
> >         Well at least you're on yet another ISP that rejects
> > Mr. Rosenthals forged cancels.
> > 
> >                         Steve
> >                         news.admin.censorship
> 
>    Hey Steve, 
> 
>      Thanks for the constant updates.  Would you happen to have any kind
> of a list of the various ISPs who reject Rosenthals attempts to be a god
> by cancelling messages?  If so, please post it here for public
> consideration.  People who are looking for a new ISP should consider
> finding one that rejects Leonard Rosenthals cancellations.
> 
>     Thanks,
>       Tracey


Well, Tracey, The Aldebaran Group, Ltd. was formed to start taking up the
task of informing consumers on the Internet of some of these issues. It's
about time to call these ISPs to accountability. That's what consumerism
is all about.

I've started jotting down those that I've noticed so far and I'll
coordinate with Steve to make sure that I have a complete list, thus far.
And then it will go up as a page on our site for The Aldebaran Group, Ltd.

                    <http://www.aldeberan.org>

It's a non-profit organization for informing and educating people about
these Internet issues. We are in the middle (if not beginning) of
formulating a lot of policies, standards and laws about the Internet. What
you get involved with *right now* will determine where the Internet goes
in the future. You will *make it* what you want to make it. Or if you
don't -- there are a lot of commercial interests out there who see a lot
of sheep to shear.

The point is -- do you want the Internet to be for free speech,
consumerism (i.e., business in the *consumer's interest* rather than in
the image of the "robber barron" of the last century)? Do you want it to
be for the benefit "of the people by the people and for the people"? If
so, you're going to have to get active on these issues. And this is what
The Aldeberan Group, Ltd. is aiming for -- getting others active in this.

So, yes, a list is coming -- an informal has been started. But, this start
is a bit difficult for an ole home boy (Star Traveler) who is still trying
to get HTML to work on a "Table of Contents" for a book in the Free Speech
Mirror section. Hey, I only started this HTML thing a week or so ago.
Thank God for the Macintosh and Claris Homepage -- that's all I can say
about that. But, I've got to go beyond that program, of course.

Just remember, you're in "historic times" right now -- with the Internet,
and I also believe you're in "historic times" with world governance -- as
you have probably noted -- the US has just agreed to "turn over" the
Internet governance to a world organization, and the US is starting to
*change* its own laws to *match* other world body "governing"
organizations -- right now (the WIPO and copyright issues for one example
of something being changed at this moment).

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So, remember, this is what The Aldeberan Group, Ltd. is going to be doing
-- but we have just started. But, also -- besides being serious -- it's
going to be fun, too. You can't get too far in this world without a sense
of humor, even when doing serious things. So, help us with organizing some
material, supply some material, work on some HTML coding, donate some
money for maintenance costs, or whatever -- and help The Aldeberan Group,
Ltd. in its goal in preserving free speech for all to say what they have a
right to say, and for getting involved with your elected representative to
preserve these fundamental principles.

What you've seen in these newsgroups is only one fundamental principle in
operation -- so far. It's the principle of the "robber barrons" of the
last century who said,  "It's my money and I'll steal it from whomever I
wish!" That could very well be the motto for Texas.Net.

We have to restore the balance to the ordinary individual, empower the
consumer and get the show on the road!!

xxx                                                              xxx
xxx                          A message                           xxx
xxx                from the original, one & only                 xxx
xxx                    --> Star Traveler <--                     xxx
xxx                      aldeberan@alt.net                       xxx
xxx             -->>> http://www.aldeberan.org <<<--             xxx
xxx       UDP-ed for warning about a scam at Texas.Net ISP       xxx
xxx          Protest FOR free speech at austin.internet          xxx
xxx                                                              xxx

Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship
on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning
about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers.
Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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If your name is below -- you are either an idiot, liar, useless,
troublemaker or deserve no response -- and as such will get no
further response -- preventing the "flooding" of the newsgroups.

Chris Edmonson <lostsoul@mail.com> [the fool I'm ignoring]
Star Traveler Too <star_traveler@inorbit.com> [the *fake* Star]
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From: aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler)
Subject: Re: ISPs Who Reject Leonard (Chip) Rosenthal's UDPs
Date: 1998/06/06
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