Article View: alt.internet.services
Article #4703Re: IDT-connect problems
From: Chris Woods
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:00
41 lines
3244 bytes
3244 bytes
In article <4idqoe$k2h@jake.probe.net>,
dbotkin@probe.net (Dale Botkin) writes:
>
>Yup. They wanted us to provide dialup for them in our area. We get
>$10/mo per customer and give their customers a ***15:1*** ratio of
>users to modems. Fifteen to one! We know from experience that
>anyting above 10:1 is asking for trouble.
This is not at all true. It's a "sliding scale", and as the user base
grows, so can your user:modem ratio. When you had 30 customers, was a 10:1
ratio sufficient? Probably not; probably closer to 2:1 or 1:1. Similarly,
if you have a larger number of users, you are better with a higher
user:modem ratio. Look at Netcom. I don't know how many dialup lines they
have, and I believe their dialup customer-base is in excess of 400,000. I
am willing to bet money their ratio is nowhere near 10:1. With the 2 ISP's
I've worked for, a low ratio works for a smaller number of customers, and
as the customer-base grew, a larger ratio was fine, with few complaints of
busies. With 10,000 customers at one ISP, a 20:1 ratio worked well. It is
completely unrealistic to promise "never a busy" to the customers; a
provider must analyze what level of busies is intolerable, and operate
above that. For example, I personally consider it reasonable to have to
redial 5 times to get online.
>We decided to pass. We didn't need our name dragged through the mud
>by being associated with this kind of service, and also figured out
>we'd probably go broke at ten bucks a user. We don't run metered
>residential lines in somebody's basement for dialups.
From what I've heard about IDT, you made a good choice. Also, if the
marketing were left up to you (which, along with payroll, should be the
highest expense of nearly any business) then you would most certainly lose
at $10/user. However, it depends upon how much of the expense of running
the business would be yours to determine whether or not you'd lose money.
I don't know what IDT's franchise policy entails, but from what I've heard,
you would have lost money based on reputation alone.
Chris Woods cjwoods@gigotech.net
"There's always too much month at the end of the money."
Don't sit back and let the government take away your right to speech.
See http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<4ifbl8$prd@sundog.tiac.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mailReferences:
<3137658D.35E5@valleynet.com> <4h80df$rok@spectator.cris.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9628,92c42a8507ea1486 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9628,public X-Google-Thread: 105c4d,92c42a8507ea1486 X-Google-Attributes: gid105c4d,public X-Google-Thread: 10bb12,e09eacee219b4ca7,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10bb12,public X-Google-Thread: fc7b2,92c42a8507ea1486 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc7b2,public X-Google-Thread: 10bd82,92c42a8507ea1486 X-Google-Attributes: gid10bd82,public From: cjwoods@angus.gigotech.net (Chris Woods) Subject: Re: IDT-connect problems Date: 1996/03/16 Message-ID: <4ifbl8$prd@sundog.tiac.net> X-Deja-AN: 142790761 references: <3137658D.35E5@valleynet.com> <4h80df$rok@spectator.cris.com> organization: The Internet Access Company newsgroups: alt.internet.services,houston.internet.providers,misc.news.internet.discuss,alt.internet.access,ne.internet.services