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Re: FCC Broadband Proposal: too little, too late, too timid

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From: Roy
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:41
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On 3/19/2010 12:03 PM, Bob wrote:
> On 18/03/2010 15:53, AES wrote:
>> In article<bPidncrTJ7axezzWnZ2dnUVZ8uadnZ2d@bt.com>,
>> Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> While this is probably common in the US I don't believe it would be
>>> allowed in countries who wish to push forward broadband expansion and
>>> capability. If a company is prepared to "light the fibre" they should be
>>> allowed to do so for a "reasonable" fee payable to the owner of the
>>> fibre.
>>
>> There are two sides to this problem: Situations where companies (or
>> other organizations) own dark fiber but aren't willing to lease it, but
>> also situations where dark fiber is available for lease but prospective
>> users aren't willing to lease, even for backhaul purposes.
>>
>> We have a neighborhood where AT&T could install Uverse with some local
>> trenching, then lease currently dark fiber owned by a municipal system
>> to complete the connection to their central facility several miles away.
>>
>> Sorry, says AT&T -- we won't go into any situation where we don't _own_
>> the entire fiber setup, all the way from the customer to our central
>> facility.
>>
>> Hmmm -- wonder why that's their policy?
> Amsterdam's FTTH.
> "The second decision was to build an open-access, passive fiber plant
> that would support multiple ISPs in competition. In practice this
> translates to:
>
> * Unbundled dark fiber access lines which can be rented individually by
> an ISP who wants to serve that particular customer
> * ISPs can get access to APOPs to install their line cards and related
> equipment, patch in their customer access line, and connect to their own
> backhaul network"
> <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars/>
>

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world

Personal income tax in the Netherlands is 10% higher.
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