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On 19/03/2010 19:41, Roy wrote:
> On 3/19/2010 12:03 PM, Bob wrote:
>> On 18/03/2010 15:53, AES wrote:
>>> In article<bPidncrTJ7axezzWnZ2dnUVZ8uadnZ2d@bt.com>,
>>> Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> While this is probably common in the US I don't believe it would be
>>>> allowed in countries who wish to push forward broadband expansion and
>>>> capability. If a company is prepared to "light the fibre" they
>>>> should be
>>>> allowed to do so for a "reasonable" fee payable to the owner of the
>>>> fibre.
>>>
>>> There are two sides to this problem: Situations where companies (or
>>> other organizations) own dark fiber but aren't willing to lease it, but
>>> also situations where dark fiber is available for lease but prospective
>>> users aren't willing to lease, even for backhaul purposes.
>>>
>>> We have a neighborhood where AT&T could install Uverse with some local
>>> trenching, then lease currently dark fiber owned by a municipal system
>>> to complete the connection to their central facility several miles away.
>>>
>>> Sorry, says AT&T -- we won't go into any situation where we don't _own_
>>> the entire fiber setup, all the way from the customer to our central
>>> facility.
>>>
>>> Hmmm -- wonder why that's their policy?
>> Amsterdam's FTTH.
>> "The second decision was to build an open-access, passive fiber plant
>> that would support multiple ISPs in competition. In practice this
>> translates to:
>>
>> * Unbundled dark fiber access lines which can be rented individually by
>> an ISP who wants to serve that particular customer
>> * ISPs can get access to APOPs to install their line cards and related
>> equipment, patch in their customer access line, and connect to their own
>> backhaul network"
>> <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars/>
>>
>>
>
> Check out
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
>
> Personal income tax in the Netherlands is 10% higher.
>
"Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes commented: �Business activities 
of public authorities in the liberalised electronic communications 
sector have to be analysed carefully because of the potentially 
distortive effect of any state aid on the business of private operators, 
especially in metropolitan areas. However, in this particular case, our 
investigation found that the municipality of Amsterdam invests on market 
terms and that several private parties make significant investments in 
the project."

Together with other shareholders, Amsterdam is investing in a company 
building a "fibre-to-the-home" broadband access network connecting 
37,000 households in Amsterdam. The total equity investment in the 
project is �18 million. The Amsterdam municipality owns one third of the 
shares, two private investors, ING Real Estate and Reggefibre together 
another third, while five housing corporations own the remaining third. 
The wholesale operator of the new fibre network was selected through a 
tender procedure and will provide open, non-discriminatory access to 
retail operators which offer TV, broadband and telephony services."
<http://www.citynet.nl/>