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Re: Failing to use corporate VPN from a wireless LAN

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From: J Howard
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 06:56
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IPSec authenticates each packet using a shared secret between the physical
endpoints. Under raw NAT each packet is modified slightly between the two
endpoints thus modifying the packet in ways that make the packet fail its
checksum during decryption.  Linksys (and others) home use NAT routers have
firmware (starting with 1.37) that allow for IPSec passthru i.e. the packet
is routed based upon the type rather than the content of the packet.  I
haven't tried this, but I think you can only have one IPSec client operating
behind these routers/firewalls as the firmware isn't smart enough to route
to multiple IPSec clients (I may be wrong about this).

You should still have NAT up and running or some other physical firewall to
protect communications that aren't VPN on the computer in question and to
protect all other computers on the network.

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"Rob Froelich" <froelich@chicagonet.net> wrote in message
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> I have to disagree with Fadi's post.
>
> "Fadi" <fadi@harake.com> wrote in message
> news:64307795.0111020717.6c8b7ed4@posting.google.com...
> > Its NAT! are you using a "Firewall" does your wireless "gateway" takes
> > one "real" IP address and the clients use a reserved address?
>
>  I'm quite sure you can run a VPN session using the nortel extranet client
> (connecting to a contivity box at the corporate end) through a session
using
> NAT. I connect to a corporate VPN all the time and used to connect through
a
> Linksys using NAT all the time and never had any trouble. I use the Nortel
> client to get to a contivity box as well. If you asked me I'd guess there
is
> something going on your corporate VPN authentication - maybe you sessions
> are expiring for some reason. I'm not a VPN expert, but isnt there some IP
> encapsulation going on anyway with IPsec or L2tp that would make NAT
pretty
> much irrelevant?
>
> >
> > dzerzhin@yahoo.com (Alex) wrote in message
> news:<ab6bb229.0110301543.25dd0ca0@posting.google.com>...
> > > I'm using UofChicago's wireless LAN to get on the Internet, which
> > > works great.  But once i try to go from their LAN to corporate VPN
> > > (using Nortel Extranet client),
>
>  Maybe UofC's network doesn't like something your PC is sending/receiving
to
> keep the session alive - I've had trouble with VPNs in the past where
> networks wouldn't necessarily allow all the ports the VPN required. If
those
> ports are being dropped for some reason that would explain your sessions
> timing out - the packedts on ports needed to keep the tunnel alive aren't
> being received at the host or client, and the tunnel eventually dies. Any
> VPN experts wanna tell me I'm full of it (I'd appreciate it, since I'm
sort
> of technical novice with VPN anyway).
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Failing to use corporate VPN from a wireless LAN
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