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In article <1b7omcINNhlb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> afj@po.CWRU.Edu (Anne F. Johnson) writes:
>various ways that I've read include typing...
>/IRCNAME = "Ronald van Loon"; export IRCNAME
Where did you read this?  Who told you this?  What help pages?
What man pages?

>/Setenv IRCNAME "Ronald van Loon"
You're so close and yet miles and miles away from where you want to be.

>They didn't work... I am not very up on the intracacies of computers and
>programming and I know absolutely nothing about UNIX
Obviously.

>but I can follow directions...
Obviously not.

>worked I assume I am typing these commands at the right place in irc...
These commands are NOT to be typed in irc.  

>The value of SHELL is set to /bin/sh which if I read the help correctly
>means that /IRCNAME should work... Confirming this idea under the /help
You did not read the help correctly.  The setting of environment variables
has nothing to do with irc.  Irc only uses certain variables that were 
set from the shell.


Anyway, the short and simple answer is if you can't access a real unix
shell on freenet, then you are out of luck.  I can certainly understand
your need to change the IRCNAME, but you can't do it from within irc.
All the commands that might allow you to get around this problem in 
very convoluted ways have been disabled on freenet.  Unless you 
can get a real unix account somewhere then there isn't anything
you can do.

If by any chance you do have a real unix shell on freenet, then you can 
type either
IRCNAME="Whatever you want"
export IRCNAME        

Note I did not put any spaces in there as you did either.    If the 
shell is csh or tcsh, you can use

setenv IRCNAME "Whatever you want."

End of story.

	ian

In article <1992Oct11.042646.2825@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:
>In article <1b7omcINNhlb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> afj@po.CWRU.Edu (Anne F. Johnson) writes:
>>various ways that I've read include typing...
>>/IRCNAME = "Ronald van Loon"; export IRCNAME
>Where did you read this?  Who told you this?  What help pages?
>What man pages?
...
>You're so close and yet miles and miles away from where you want to be.
...
>>programming and I know absolutely nothing about UNIX
>Obviously.

>>but I can follow directions...
>Obviously not.

Oh come on Mr. Runaway Daemon ... there was a time that even *you* didn't know
how to apply environment variables ... be a little nicer to the fellow.  He
wasn't *that* far off ...

Actually, all IRCII's help files say about this is this (at least mine ...):

*** HELP IRCII choices:
COMMAND_LINE_ARGS  COPYRIGHT          ENVIRONMENT_VARS
IRCII              PROGRAMMING        SERVER_LISTS
STATUS_LINE        
           
HELP IRCII Topic: ENVIRONMENT_VARS
*** Help on ENVIRONMENT_VARS
The following environment variables are recognized by IRCII.
 
IRCNICK   -  Specifies your default irc nickname
IRCNAME   -  Specifies any lunacy you want instead of your real name
IRCSERVER -  Specifies a default server list for IRCII
IRCPATH   -  Specifies a list of directories IRCII should search when
             the /LOAD command is used to find IRCII scripts.
             (also see SET LOAD_PATH)
IRCRC     -  Specifies a file to use instead of your $HOME/.ircrc.
TERM      -  Specifies your terminal type
HOME      -  Tells IRCII where your home directory is
IrcII can find other environment variables through alias substitution.
e.g.  $HOST will show the HOST envariable, $PATH the PATH envariable.


Certainly nothing about how to actually *change* them ... obviously
this person had at least done some of the legwork on this, to find out about
the export command, etc...

Of course, Daemon is correct about what he said about needing a unix
shell ...

But if you *do* have a real unix account, you can include these setenv
statements in your .login or .cshrc files ... (assuming you use the csh or
tcsh shells ... with others, it gets more complicated ...)

   setenv IRCNAME "Bozo the Clown\!"   <- some characters must be quoted.
   setenv IRCNICK "Bozo"
   setenv IRCSERVER bozo.cs.edu

More questions ? ask ...


-- 
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