🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <4ekt8m$hk0@kachina.jetcafe.org>,
   dave@kachina.jetcafe.org (Dave Hayes) wrote:
>tzimon@crl.com (Tzimon Yliaster) writes:
>>Y'know, it would be really nice for there to be at least one or two 
>>newsgroups without this crap on it.  It's gotten to a point where every 
>>single newsgroup I read has this slime smeared on it.  Grubor et al are 
>>pissing all over Usenet like incontinent children.
>>All of Usenet is not a forum for Grubor et al's tempests-in-teapots and 
>>responses to them.  What's going on isn't spam, and it isn't velveeta, 
>>and I don't even know if it can be fit on some kind of index, but it 
>>clearly constitutes some sort of abuse, as Usenet was never intended to 
>>be a forum for rolling flamewars like this.
>
>     NetNews Citation for news.* (issued by Dave Hayes)
>
>[ ] Denying the existance of the Usenet Cabal
>    [ ] ...and doing so to a poor newbie
>    [ ] ...in an attempt to conceal it
>[ ] Being, supporting, applauding, or agreeing with a member of the Usenet Cabal 
>[x] Yawping against free speech
>    [ ] ...and mentioning ownership of the press
>    [ ] ...and mentioning ownership of your server
>    [x] ...and mentioning netiquitte
>    [x] ...and mentioning your standard of appropriateness
>    [ ] ...and mentioning how much you pay for news
>[ ] Yawping about the lack of control freaks
>    [ ] ...and how you are trying to save the net
>    [ ] ...combined with one of the following names:
>        [ ] Serder Argic
>        [ ] Canter
>        [ ] Siegel
>        [ ] Spam
>        [ ] Boursy
>        [ ] Grubor
>[ ] Attempting to speak for someone else on the net
>    [ ] ... and fooling someone else 
>[ ] Bullying a poor newbie
>    [ ] ...into submission
>    [ ] ...off of the Net 
>    [ ] ...about appropriate posting by your personal standard of appropriateness
>    [ ] ...about crossposting
>    [ ] ...about spamming
>    [ ] ...with things you wouldn't DARE touch an old-timer with
>    [ ] ...by mailing his postmaster
>        [ ] ...and getting him kicked off his ISP
>[ ] Bullying a net citizen
>    [ ] ...because of someone who threatens to leave the net 
>        [ ] ...and getting said citizen kicked off the net
>        [ ] ...and you actually believe them
>            [ ] ...and you cater to their every whim
>    [ ] ...because of someone who actually leaves the net
>        [ ] ...and getting said citizen kicked off the net
>        [ ] ...and you actually believe them
>            [ ] ...and you STILL cater to their every whim
>    [ ] ...about crossposting
>    [ ] ...about spamming
>    [ ] ...by mailing his postmaster
>[x] Pronouncing Judgement on another net citizen
>    [ ] ...and not investigating properly first
>    [ ] ...and not realizing that you have no way to verify things
>    [ ] ...and being a news admin
>    [ ] ...over something you do yourself
>        [ ] ...in this message
>[x] Failing to ignore:
>    [x] ...a posting you yourself claim is worthless
>    [ ] ...a newsgroup you yourself claim is worthless
>    [ ] ...a network you yourself claim is worthless
>    [ ] ...an anonymous post that you claim is worthless
>           [ ] ...when you have sworn up and down before God and Country
>                  that all anonymous posting is worthless regardless of 
>                  content
>    [x] ...articles from:
>        [ ] Serder Argic
>        [ ] Canter OR Siegel
>        [x] Any Usenet Kook, Loon, Whiny, or Dickhead
>        [ ] Peter "Da Gold and" Da Silva
>    [ ] ...an obvious forgery
>    [ ] ...a troll
>    [ ] ...spam or velveeta
>    [ ] ...control messages you didn't like
>[x] Failing to have a newsreader that
>    [x] ...presents articles on a menu for selection
>    [ ] ...consolodates subject
>    [ ] ...has threads
>    [x] ...has killfiles
>    [x] ...has a 'next message' key 
>        [x] ...and failing to USE the damn thing
>    [ ] ...has a clue
>    [ ] ...follows
>	  [ ] RFC822
>	  [ ] RFC1036
>	  [ ] son-of-1036
>[ ] Failing to configure your news server to:
>    [ ] ...possess enough disk space for your newsspool
>        [ ] ... and you carry news.*
>        [ ] ... and you carry alt.*
>        [ ] ... and you carry alt.binaries.*
>    [ ] ...possess enough inodes on your newsspool partition
>        [ ] ... and you newgroup everything 
>    [ ] ...locate the history and log files on a different disk from the newsspool
>    [ ] ...ignore cancel messages
>    [ ] ...ignore sendsys messages
>    [ ] ...ignore rmgroup messages
>    [ ] ...ignore NCM messages
>    [ ] ...ignore spamcancel/cyberspam/spewcancel messages
>    [ ] ...honor all newgroup messages
>    [ ] ...use a properly configured network connection 
>    [ ] ...ignore badly formed newgroup messages
>[x] Refusing to understand that Usenet
>    [ ] ...isn't only run one way
>    [ ] ...has many other people besides Cabal supporters
>    [x] ...should be absolutely free
>[ ] Believing someone else's explanations
>    [ ] ...without checking them out for yourself
>       [ ] ...because someone told you they were a net god
>[ ] Blaming someone else 
>    [ ] ...for your news server's misconfiguration
>    [ ] ...for your newsreader's lack of capability
>[x] Failing to have in one's possession:
>    [ ] ...a clue
>        [ ] ...about the lack of uniformity in the human race
>        [ ] ...about the ancient newsreader you are using
>        [ ] ...about news transport software
>            [ ] ...and the large variation in use
>        [ ] ...about true honor
>        [ ] ...about life and living 
>    [x] ...respect for differing points of view
>    [ ] ...the technical expertise to run a news server
>[x] Holding forth on:
>    [ ] the lack of rules in alt.*
>        [ ] ...and how abusive it is not to have some
>        [ ] ...and that regardless there are still some restrictions
>            [ ] ...and mentioning anything about common sense
>        [ ] ...and how close-minded everyone else is
>        [ ] ...without understanding what anarchy means
>            [ ] ...and knee-jerking at the word "anarchy"
>        [ ] ...and how alt is a useless hierarchy
>        [ ] ...and being a member of the Config Cabal
>    [x] netiquette
>    [ ] SPAM
>        [ ] ...and how bad it is
>        [ ] ...and how prevalent it is
>        [ ] ...and how justified the spam cancellers are      
>    [x] Net Abuse
>        [x] ...and how someone should be silenced because of what they did
>            [ ] ...and doing the same thing yourself
>                [ ] ...in the same message
>        [x] ...and how people who aren't exactly like you are a menace
>        [ ] ...and mentioning
>            [ ] ...child pornography
>            [ ] ...racism
>            [ ] ...sexism
>            [ ] ...homophobia
>            [ ] ...heterophobia
>            [ ] ...harassment
>[ ] Writing a net robot that:
>    [ ] ...cancels messages
>        [ ] ...based on a pattern or algorithm
>    [ ] ...reposts messages (unless this is a response to cancels)
>    [ ] ...superceeds messages
>    [ ] ...is associated with the word ARMM
>[ ] Using the following previously debunked arguments:
>    [ ] People pay for news, so it's their right to determine what someone
>        else can and cannot do in another country.
>    [ ] If everyone did it, it would destroy news as we know it. 
>    [ ] You can't ignore:
>         [ ] a news posting like that one
>         [ ] that many news postings
>         [ ] crossposted articles like that one
>         [ ] spamming 
>         [ ] harassment
>    [ ] Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one
>    [ ] Freedom of speech is abridged by shouting everyone else down
>    [ ] There is no newsreader that can solve Usenet's problems
>    [ ] Censorship is important because need to save every last bit of bandwidth
>[x] Flaming, complaining, or cajoling about:
>       [ ] poor grammar
>       [ ] poor spelling
>       [ ] poor formatting 
>       [ ] inappropriate signatures
>       [x] inappropriate crossposts
>       [ ] inappropriate quoting
>[ ] You quoted the entire article you are following up to
>    [ ] ...and failed to include any text.
>[x] I've heard it before.
>    [ ] ...but at least last time it was funny.
>    [ ] ...and it never was funny
>[ ] All the above apply to you because you are
>    [ ] ...Jay Maynard
>    [ ] ...Peter Da Silva